Historical_General

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  • You’ve got a lot going on in that first chunk of text you posted. But while I am reading Mazower’s book on Hilter’s Empire, I’ll see to your first and last questions: Why did the Nazis look to American Law? and What about motive?

    Well the American system was simply by chance or by the inevitable case of Northern European colonisation a very disparate place racially. The ethnic features of the British and Europeans are in stark contrast to West Africans. So this advantage enabled generational slavery as opposed to possible upward mobility through intermarriage by some white servant or serf to somebody above their station. It also made possible as America’s aspirations to become a world superpower grew, the proper enforcement of anti-miscegenation laws as white immigration increased. By the time the Nazis had come to power, the US had the most extreme Blood laws and actively white supremacist legal system, which the Nazis would take interest in.

    The Nazis were also obsessed with the future and youth, so their Eugenicist obsession with weeding out the Jew was not unusual nor was it out of step with the Progressive movement of the day - both British and American eugenist circles had their fascists in them. This doubly provided cover for their continued persecution of political enemies, Jews, Roma, the disabled as well as communists and trade unionists.

    I’m not sure what your precise disagreement with the text is. And by the way the quoted text I posted above your comment is actually an extract from the book. And the book is cited. Citation number 16 from that extract is: David Scott Fitzgerald and David Cook-Martin, Culling the Masses: The Democratic Origins of Racist Immigration Policy in the Americas (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2014), 7.



  • In the early twentieth century the United States was not just a country with racism. It was the leading racist jurisdiction—so much so that even Nazi Germany looked to America for inspiration. What David Fitzgerald and David Cook-Martin conclude about immigration—that “[t]he United States was the leader in developing explicitly racist policies of nationality and immigration”16—is true of the other areas of the law this book has surveyed as well. In the early twentieth century the United States, with its deeply rooted white supremacy and its vibrant and innovative legal culture, was the country at the forefront of the creation of racist law. That is how the Nazis saw matters, and they were not the only ones. The same was true in Brazil,17 just as it was true in Australia and South Africa,18 just as it was true of the German colonial administrators who went hunting for a model for the making of anti-miscegenation law.19 And while the Nazis liked to mention South Africa as a fellow traveler, in practice they found very little South African law to cite in the early 1930s.20 Their overwhelming interest was in the “classic example,” the United States of America.