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🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴@vegantheoryclub.org to Memes@lemmy.ml · 5 months ago

Are the tankies in the room with you now?

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Are the tankies in the room with you now?

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🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴@vegantheoryclub.org to Memes@lemmy.ml · 5 months ago
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    Aside from conservatives, does anyone think the world is controlled by marxists, tankie or otherwise?

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      The meme is about lemmy.world and American liberals are center-right conservatives so…

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        American liberals are centre-left progressives* FTFY

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          You don’t get to the left until you’re anticapitalist. Since it’s MLK day, here’s MLK coming to the understanding that the liberals who pretend to share his goal are no less of an obstacle than the klansman because both the liberal and klansman condemn any means to achieve his goal.

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          Can you define center-left in global terms and then in the context of US politics? There’s a very important distinction there that you are glossing over.

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            The way i see it, the global center-left refers to political ideologies and parties that advocate for a moderate form of social democracy or progressive policies while still operating within a capitalist framework.

            In America, center-left describes individuals or movements that align with progressive or liberal values which includes things like support for social welfare, promoting civil liberties and backing environmental initiatives.

            Although I’m not American, this is how i usually see them being portrayed in the media, so i could be glossing over some things.

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              In the global terms of political discourse the Democratic party is as of the most recent election now Center Right and the Republican party is Far Right. The Dems in the US, in recent history, started moving to the right with Clinton, arrived at the center with Obama and have now moved into the right with Biden/Harris/Walz.

              https://manifesto-project.wzb.eu/

              https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

              https://lawcha.org/2016/11/23/bill-clinton-remade-democratic-party-abandoning-unions-working-class-whites/

              https://www.politico.com/story/2008/07/obamas-steady-centrism-011880

              https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-10-10/2024-election-kamala-harris-policy-shifts

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                Hmm interesting context i didn’t know about. It would seem to me, however, that this is only a reflection of the direction the party leaders are taking the party towards and not actual sentiments of party members. The democrats are a huge contradiction basically.

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                  Sanders in 2016 proved that only the Dem Party leader interests matter to the Dem Party.

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                    Guess that explains why Trump is back

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      The closest is the PRC, though all Marxists understand that the US is the current hegemon.

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