I don’t know why I even bother opening the settings app

  • Gestrid@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Remember when they planned to move over all the Control Panel settings to the Settings app?

    In Windows 10?

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    11 months ago

    bro I’m so happy that the last windows i set up was 2015… i remember every time the excruciating 1h set aside to click and confirm and authenticate privileged access and pull slider etc… no sensible way to just run it in terminal, at least not that i know of. and nowadays there’s this useless right-click menu that hides the real right-click menu and you can only fix this by finding a registry key 😂😂😂

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    11 months ago

    I’ll have you know windows has changed.

    Now you can’t move the task bar

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    11 months ago

    Meanwhile the KDE settings panel has been designed and redesigned like 20 times in the past 20 years. Much better, but also… Dude, please focus more on stability and less on “let’s redo this from scratch again!”

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      11 months ago

      I kind of wish they would stop moving things around in the KDE settings. But at least the search works in submillisecond timing and I can always find what I’m looking for

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    11 months ago

    Because Microsoft went full Apple amd adopted the “we know what’s good for you so don’t defy our decisions” philosophy of UX design.

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      11 months ago

      As much as I hate apple, at least apple also caters to power users somewhat. Windows became so, so dumb.

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          10 months ago

          Whatever you say mate. There’s a reason developers who don’t Linux use macs and not windows.

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            10 months ago

            Because it’s based off of BSD and uses very similar tools to Linux, and because of brainwashing of the Apple cult I guess.

            Overall, OSX is a piece of shit OS that is shit to work on. I lasted a year before I just gave it back and got a Windows machine, most unintuitive frustrating OS I’ve ever used. Sure the hardware can seem nice (if it doesn’t break or if you don’t need anything repaired or replaced) but OSX is trash. If you want to use something, use Linux, there are tons of good distros and all of them cater to the power user.

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              I work on OSX build machines every day and the amount of time I have to waste fiddling to get the simplest shit to work is insane. Fuck I hate it so much with every fiber of my body. I can’t even use any cli utils to get disk or network stats because of their dumb security BS, which you can’t disable because it’s cloud hosted.

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                10 months ago

                Because I like Windows, and calling it “pathetic” is like saying OSX is for power users. Lol, just, lol.

                I’ve been in the industry for 18 years, I went from an MS Systems Engineer building and managing MS infrastructure for all size companies and enterprises. I’ve been an AWS Cloud Support engineer working mainly on Linux and AWS, I’ve been a devops engineer building and maintaining on prem build systems and web server farms (these used IIS and everything was MS) for a company with insane uptime requirements, I’ve also done similar on AWS with K8s and a whole bunch of other stuff. I’m now a Systems Engineer in a build team for a big company and my primary responsibility is to build and manage the OSX infra we use. During that time I’ve had enough experience of trying to deal with OSX and all it’s BS, which included using a MacBook for a year, that I can say unequivocally that Apple is a shitty company with shitty practices, and Linux can be a pain in the ass to fix when things break in strange ways. But you know what I love about Windows? It just works, I rarely have any issues. If I need Linux, I use WSL or start a VM in the cloud or my machine. I can run pretty much everything I need without issues and I’m a master with PowerShell so can automate anything I need to do on my own PC.

                But you know what? You’re completely right, my career is a failure and I’m pathetic because I use Windows. I should go kms now.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t know what Apple did but they murdered System Preferences and made us all watch as they pretended the mutilated corpse with a name tag on still dripping with middle manager cum is better.

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    10 months ago

    Appwiz.cpl, ncpa.cpl, desk.cpl and mmsys.cpl. I use all the time… ever since win 8 changed all the settings ui. That new ui, while getting better since 8 still sucks since the old control panel. I hope they never remove it since windows is still the name of the game for end users (even in some software dev environments).

    Here’s a list of cpl, you just use them at run or even the windows search. https://www.itechtics.com/control-panel-applets-cpl/

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    11 months ago

    I am really going to miss the old settings when they finally remove what is left of Control Panel. So far they have removed things or moved shit to force the Settings app. But they keep failing to make the new things have anywhere near the level of control. The power settings from Control Panel still matter way more than Settings and seem to actually stick when applied. And I just really have no idea how they have made stuff like resetting networking/connection issues worse over time. Fucking right-clicking on the networking icon on the taskbar and picking “repair” would actually get shit working again 8 times out of 10. But just seems to be a placebo at this point. There are still so many times that using different resets in Internet Options fixes more stuff I see regularly than the resets in Settings->Networking.

    And the newer Troubleshooting options never fix any of the Windows Update issues I come across. Just a glorified verification of the failures I already know are happening. I never thought I would so badly miss being able to tell Windows Update to ignore updates if they were bugging out (not to avoid them all together but at least stop the OS from just constantly going through the motions of installing and failing during each reboot/shutdown). So many of the updates that used to give me issues were really either down to them trying to install out of order or due to a fuck-up on MS’s end that pushed bad updates.

    The push to so deeply embed these AI models into everything so fast is really pissing me off. Shit is known to have issues with just outright making shit up. Which is IMO reason enough to not be adding them to end-products (especially since the end-products are also still not finished with removing old versions of things). One thing that really worries me in my job with fixing people’s PCs is the AI and search that pushes web content (and the now inescapable placement of ads) above local resources/programs/settings/etc. The main issues people have aren’t actual viruses like in the past. It is the massive levels of scams and fake alerts followed by fake “repair techs.” If the average person is so easy to trick when it is people scamming them. AI is going to blow shit up waaaaaaaay worse and will be able to do it so much faster and completely. Average people are still under the impression that these AI chats are giving completely real and accurate information (reminds me of how people used to believe that if something was said on TV that it was real).

    Shit is fucked and going to get much worse at a dramatically faster rate due to rushing things in order to make as much money as fast as possible. Even Microsoft used to ship things in a more complete state. But gaming has made shipping broken products completely normal. So no reason to care about keeping any level of quality.

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      11 months ago

      I was honestly excited about the new Settings when Windows 10 arrived. I was a Windows sysadmin for more than a decade and am intimately familiar with control panel and think it sucks. I hoped Settings would modernize and streamline. But here we are, so many years later, and many common tasks still lead us to control panel. Such disappointment.

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      11 months ago

      Oh man your whole comment speaks to me.

      And the newer Troubleshooting options never fix any of the Windows Update issues I come across.

      I was fighting with this just last night. Ended up having to follow an official Microsoft guide on how to shrink my system partition by 250MB, remove the recovery partition and set up a new one with 250MB more space just so that windows update could actually install the newest update. Fortunately I enjoy dicking around with my computer and can afford to make a mistake that might trash my windows install but for others that rely on their machine this stuff has to be daunting and frustrating.

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      11 months ago

      And I just really have no idea how they have made stuff like resetting networking/connection issues worse over time.

      While I generally agree with your comment, they did add an option (don’t know how long it’s been there) where you can right-click on the Internet icon, click the troubleshooter, and there’s a button immediately right there in the troubleshooter to reset the adapter.

    • West Siberian Laika@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Unpopular opinion: Linux Mint sucks ass and there are so many great distros to choose from, which aren’t Linux Mint. It looks like Windows XP and functions like Windows XP. Still uses X11, which doesn’t even have proper support for 1:1 touchpad gestures and handles multiple displays with different scaling factors and refresh rates in a way that is, well, hacky and janky at best or non-functional at worst.

      I get that Linux Mint is easy to use because it’s made specifically to be as convenient as possible to users coming from Windows but jeez, it looks and feels like something from 2005, especially on a laptop…

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        I’ll take something from 2005 as a compliment to Linux Mint. Having installed it in 2006 you are absolutely correct. It’s shockingly boring lack of constant UI paradigm shifts almost makes me forget about the OS completely. I’m at the point in my Linux journey where I see slow adoption of new things as good. I accept others have setups that mint does not work for, but I would wager there is no Linux DE better suited as a first suggestion to try depending on the newness of the hardware. If you have 5 monitors of differing resolutions and frame rates then sure, there are better DEs.

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        11 months ago

        Linux Mint might look outdated but it’s stable as hell. Especially LMDE. Any time I mess around with arch/arch-based derivatives or any rolling release distros I’m quickly reminded why I chose to run Mint as my primary OS. I’m long past my distro hopping days so having something that works without question and doesn’t require any mucking around is huge for me.

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        10 months ago

        I used Mint when I first started playing around with Linux about a decade ago and it was pretty good. But I recently tossed it on a laptop that I primarily just wanted to run a web browser and have minimal faffing about and I’ve been extremely impressed with how it’s matured.

        The DE is snappy and unobtrusive with extremely sane defaults. The software center is extremely usable and has very nice flatpak integration, their replacement desktop utilities for the Gnome utilities they once used are very full featured and don’t get in your way, and in most cases where Canonical built their own tool that nobody else uses, Mint has already swapped it with the standard tool. If your goal is to just get a Linux desktop going with minimal faffing about Mint has really become a brilliant choice to do so with

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      11 months ago

      I think after Windows 7 they tried to get into the mobile market for a while so they changed a few things to make Windows work with touch input. But then they realized that they were not up to the task of dealing with actual competition because it requires actually making a good product, so they retreated to their desktop comfort zone where they’ve had a monopoly since forever due to exclusive software and user habits and started to cash in on it by plastering everything with ads. Meanwhile, they pulled out the few skilled developers to have them work on cloud stuff with Azure, because at least after they accidentally lost the emails of the european parliament to a chinese intelligence service without any consequences they know that nothing threatens their dominance over the market

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        11 months ago

        Windows had 3 peaks. 95, xp, and 7.

        Now I just use Linux. I know not everyone can, but for everything I do or need to do it all works just fine there so I couldn’t be happier.

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      11 months ago

      The dude who made the Task Manager? God damn, this dude singlehandedly carries Windows holy shit.

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    11 months ago

    I thought this was intentional? They have control panel stuff somewhat similar to the old style, but build a settings app for the less technical people so they can find common stuff without getting overwhelmed?

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      11 months ago

      It is intentional but not like that, Windows is built on backwards compatibility. That’s why so many parts of current Windows versions have seemingly parts of old versions tacked onto them.

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    10 months ago

    For the past 8 years I have had to disable ‘mouse acceleration’ after every Windows update. The updates have become more frequent, and the setting to disable acceleration has slowly become buried deeper in the menus. Switched to Linux two days ago and I’m never looking back.

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    Dude I got fucking livid yesterday because Alt keyboard shortcuts no longer work in Paint.

    You have to interact with the ribbon before the alt key works.

    And then there’s no key shortcut for “Save As” or “Exit”.

    The fuck Microsoft. They weren’t hurting anyone and you’re wrecking 30 years of muscle memory. You know how frustrating that is?

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    11 months ago

    I assumed they would try for feature parity at some point, but I think they forgot.