I use wire (wire. com) for daily chatting. I like it but I couldn’t find any good communities in wire. In session, or simpleX, there are privacy (and other) groups in which anyone can participate… Can we start a privacy group in wire so we folks can also hang around?
No centralized services, please. I’d vote for either XMPP or SimpleX. IRC will also work for me.
if you create a MUC in XMPP, I’m in
Yes please. Wire is definitely the best messenger currently avsilable, considering everything.
Whats with matrix?
avoid matrix https://gitlab.com/libremonde-org/papers/research/privacy-matrix.org/-/tree/master/part1
XMPP it is.
Have you checked the XMPP default settings? Its not even e2ee
what are you talking about? XMPP doesn’t have such a thing as default settings. It varies from client to client. There are clients which have E2EE enabled by default, clients which make it available, others that support it with a plugin and there are others that do not support E2EE.
That’s no excuse to avoid XMPP. XMPP is an open standard, the key is choosing a good implementation.