• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    Anti-Trade

    What does this mean?

    Anti-NATO

    It’s good to be Anti-NATO, NATO has Nazi origins and serves as a way to maintain Western Hegemony, securing profits via Imperialism and defending said Imperialism through coalition.

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      Lmao

      Mutual defense and deterrent to invasion by hostile world powers both in and outside of NATO is a bad thing? Sure, okay pal.

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        It’s an alliance between Imperialist countries, and the alliance itself has Nazi origins and has had Nazi leaders. Yes, it’s a bad thing, because Imperialism is a bad thing.

        It’s a gang of countries that hyper-exploit the Global South in mutual defense against said Global South.

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          It’s literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

          Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

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            It’s literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

            It’s expansionist against the wishes of outside countries, and NATO exerts military pressure on the Global South.

            Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

            Bzzzzt wrong. NATO’s only function is to preserve Western Hegemony and dominate the Global South militarily, so that member-States can continue exploiting ruthlessly unopposed. This results in proxy wars, such as the Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

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              It’s expansionist against the wishes of outside countries

              this isn’t super accurate, joining nato has some pretty strict requirements, and besides yeeting NATO would be like the west completely nuking china and russia because “they did a human rights violation” it’s just a dogwhistle lmao.

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              Its not expansionist because you have to request to join.

              The only objecting countries whose wishes you’re referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

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        .

        Also, don’t send us reports just because you don’t agree with someone. We’re not here to censor people for you.

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          Oh no! So you want to talk about how the mutual self defence pact is somehow oppressing you or will you just keep dodging forever?

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            Reason: User threatens me not to report his alt accounts for misinformation again

            What alt accounts? What are you even talking about? That’s two bullshit reports in one day, wasting our time.

            Reason: Claimes NATO forces other nations into subservience.

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      What does this mean?

      anti globalist, economically it’s just universally bad, it also likely harms the spread of culture as well, which is a good thing.

      It’s good to be Anti-NATO, NATO has Nazi origins and serves as a way to maintain Western Hegemony, securing profits via Imperialism and defending said Imperialism through coalition.

      most sane lemmy.ml take

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        anti globalist, economically it’s just universally bad

        Right… NAFTA was universally beloved and was never taken advantage of by unsavory political characters. I’m sure you have some very unkind words for Biden after he continued and expanded Trump’s trade war.[/s]

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          funnily enough my comment was removed, unsure why, pretty sure it was mostly accurate though lol.

          I’m sure you have some very unkind words for Biden after he continued and expanded Trump’s trade war.

          it’s a fine balance between putting a 20% tariff on literally every import (i believe trump wanted to do this) and putting a 100% tariff on chinese EVs to give the american auto market a leg to stand on.

          It’s a give and take, like everything is. But regardless, globalism is generally good for the economy.

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            It is weird that your comment was removed.

            it’s a fine balance between putting a 20% tariff on literally every import (i believe trump wanted to do this) and putting a 100% tariff on chinese EVs to give the american auto market a leg to stand on.

            Right this is the contradiction I was poking fun at.

            Personally, I prefer the carrot to the stick approach. I think we should do more stuff like the chips act and less stuff like tariffs. This is especially true in the context of technology that aids in the transition to an economy that uses less fossil fuels. The ~$10,000 Chinese EVs would be a pretty massive tool in that arsenal. (Though not as good of a tool as they are in China because of China’s genuinely impressive rail system.) If you want more American made EVs —cool so do I— but we will get there faster with the right industrial policy. The tariffs do little to make that happen.