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    2 months ago

    Not just Youtube. Google is! Ever try to use Gmail or Google Drive or Google Docs in a non-Chrome browser? That’s another level of harassment!

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      I can’t recall any popups when I use G-Suite Apps on Firefox. I use Keep Notes, Docs, Excel.

      The main thing I notice is the imposed loading time (Gmail animation takes like 10 seconds on FF and seemingly doesn’t exist on Chrome)

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    You go to a coffee shop, you order a coffee, open your laptop and start working. After you’re done with your coffee the waiter comes and asks you whether you would like to pay. You say no and continue working. One hour later they ask you again whether you would like to pay. You say no and continue working. Two hours later the waiter insists you either pay and leave, or pay for two coffees, and they bring you another one, then you can stay and work. You call the police because you’re being harassed, and post on lemmy about predatory coffee shop practices trying to upsell you a second coffee. The police arrests the waiter and you get 9000 upvotes on lemmy.

    Running a video-on-demand platform is very, very expensive. Just an FYI.

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      Why did the coffee shop have a “Free coffee and unlimited sitting time” sign in front of it?

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            Sure, but it’s a private coffee shop, and they can just simply not let you in without paying or in headphones. They need to make money.

            So, at first your clever trick works. But once everyone is doing it, their advertisers stop paying them, so now someone’s gotta pay for the coffee somehow.

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      In the comments to your coffee shop story someone points out that coffee shops deserve to be paid for the coffee and the working space you occupy. The comment gets heavily downvoted with other commenters providing great counter-arguments, like “the coffee is ridiculously overpriced, like a 100% margin, it’s an evil for-profit business and we shouldn’t pay those” and “they just had a coffee, it costs them almost nothing, the rest of the time they werr just working, which didn’t incur any costs on the coffee shop. The coffee shop are assholes, if they let the OP work till the evening, they would’ve paid for their coffee”. Someone even suggested a new commercial model for the coffee shop: everyone makes their own coffee, it’s free, and so is seating, funding is donation-based. They have certainly seen such a place before, although, they themselves would never be up for running one cuz they have a day job to pay the bills.

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        Then you are walking along the street when the city folds in on itself. You realize Leonardo Dicaprio is there. This is a dream? As if from afar, you hear a faint voice crying, “Murph! Don’t let me leave, Murph!”

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    No means no but ask me later means ask me later. You never said no. Source: the option doesn’t exist

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    Uhm, that’ s just capitalism in a nutshell.

    Everything is just routing around people telling you “no.”

    Government regulation is literally the epitome of being told “no” and they spend all the money in the fucking world to force it into a “yes.”

    I mean, these people are so far up their own asses, I’ve seen ad industry people say seriously that people avoiding ads is breaking a contract. The genuine attitude that if they paid for the ad, in real life or online, that we owe them our eyes on it because they spent money on it. They’re so far out of touch that they can’t even face small risk.

    Is it really a shock that a lot of people in corporate America are actual fucking rapists?

    Gates, Musk, Trump, McMahon, I could go on… Plenty of these guys are well documented as not being able to take “no” for an answer, even if there’s no evidence they raped anyone (Gates, for example).

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      I sometimes open the official YouTube app and set it to autoplay and mute while doing dishes, so they can be happy that I watched their fucking ads.

      I fear that at some point the feds will knock to make sure I’m not distracted while an ad plays.

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    Imo this should actually be illegal. I’m find with reasonable promotional displays and offers, but there needs to be some legal option to permanently decline. Having to tell YouTube “no” literally hundreds of times is legitimately ludicrous

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    You don’t get to say “No” to YouTube, Microsoft, or the thousands of websites that ask to you to give them your email. There’s only a “Maybe later”.

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      I fuuuhuhuhucking hate this condescending, pestering dark pattern that apparently every single designer on the planet is required to use

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      Even the shorts from your subscriptions they “optimize” using their algorithm instead of showing them chronologically. It’s such a hassle.

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    Unlock origin + Firefox! The harassment stops. I’d rather donate to the unlock team monthly instead of paying google for a solution to a problem they created.

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      Pi-Hole + VPN and you can stop mobile ads as well. (You connect your phone to your VPN, whose traffic passed through your Pi-Hole)

      Ublock Origin also works on Firefox mobile for Android, but that only works inside the browser.

      You need the Pi-Hole network-level blocking to block ads in apps.

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        I got me some new devices recently. Researching and adding privacy/security add ons to Firefox was surprisingly enjoyable.

        The idea that I have some measure of control over what I experience - and what I give in return - is novel to me.

        The -10 or so extensions work well enough. It’s still the internet, but it’s an earlier version. Better than what currently exists.

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        Actually YouTube kinda built in the feature lol. It detects sections of the video most people skip and gives you a button to skip it as well. All right inside the YouTube app.

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        I don’t know, most creators I watch put a creative spin on those, and it’s fun to watch. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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          FYI, SponsorBlock isn’t just for skipping sponsored segments. SB gives you granular control over the sorts of sections you can skip, and it only auto-skips sponsors by default. However:

          • There are several categories of section, including intro animation/intermission (“an interval without actual content”), preview (i.e. where the information already exists later in the video), sponsor (a segment made in return for payment from a third party), unpaid/self-promotion (e.g. “buy my merch”), interaction reminder (e.g. “remember to like and subscribe”), and endcards/credits. (There’s also “filler tangent/jokes”, but I haven’t tried this one.)
          • For each of these categories, you can choose to disable altogether, show in the seek bar, prompt to manually skip, or auto skip.

          So even if you would never want to skip a sponsored segment in your life, the extension still saves a ton of time if you have no/limited interest in watching even just one of the above-listed categories.

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              Absolutely! And what I ran down is just the extent of the features I personally interact with; there are a fair few more, including one that aims to combat clickbait by changing clickbaity titles.

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            One helpful thing I found is that it can skip “non music sections”, ie those cringey silent scenes they put in YouTube videos. If that’d existed a couple of years ago, I probably wouldn’t have switched to Spotify. I mainly switched because I was sick of random 10 second pauses for dramatic effect in the middle of songs, often right before the chorus