Canada expects to announce this week that all new cars will have to be zero emissions by 2035, a senior government source said, as Ottawa is set to unveil new regulations in the latest example of countries around the world pushing for electrification.

Canada to announce all new cars must be zero emissions by 2035::Canada expects to announce this week that all new cars will have to be zero emissions by 2035, a senior government source said, as Ottawa is set to unveil new regulations in the latest example of countries around the world pushing for electrification.

  • bratosch@lemm.eeEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Production of batteries, handling discarded batteries, breaking of minerals FOR the batteries, and producing the electricity have all been shown to be worse for the environment than than the entire life of a traditional car

    • ThenThreeMore@startrek.websiteEnglish
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      10 months ago

      You got something to back that up? The last study I read (I think it was from Volvo comparing one of their EVs against the ICE version of the car) showed between 60 and 80 thousand miles (depending on the energy generation mix) was the tipping point where EVs became better.

      And that was probably about 5 years ago, there’s been a lot of significant development in EVs since then.

      • bratosch@lemm.eeEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Well, please show me a trustworthy study of the difference between ICE and EV emissions per mile during their lifetime. The ones I’ve read always say “in their lifetime”, but they don’t take into account EV batteries need changing after about 10 years … And batteries are as we know the “big bad” of EVs. The absolutely only true comparison would be all emissions from all sources spread out over either per mile or per year. A combustion car can easily last 20 years, which isn’t really a fair comparison to the 10 years.

        • Yoddel_Hickory@lemmy.caEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Hey you made the claim in the first place, you have the burden proof. Don’t attempt to shift it.

          • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
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            10 months ago

            This article, and everying about this subject, presumes EV is better than ICE. That’s the positive claim.

            Show me the math, the studies. If it holds true, this should be easy. And, it would end the debate.

            Data trumps. If the research is so overwhelmingly in favor of EVs, let’s publish that info everywhere for people to read, study, analyze. Lots easier to convince people with the information out there, warts and all.

            • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
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              10 months ago

              And, it would end the debate.

              No, you’d hemm and haw and avoid the problem. We’ve been here before.