• corbin@infosec.pub
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    10 months ago

    FOSS bros: we’re all about user choice!

    also FOSS bros: no not like that

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      10 months ago

      It’s pretty logical actually: The advocates of openness must be closed to one thing, and that is whatever aims to destroy openness itself.

    • Handles@leminal.space
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      10 months ago

      You’re downplaying your own part, in between those two statements.

      Internet rando: “I choose to enable this corporate, repeat privacy offender in strongarming its way into the open, federated web”

      Edit: spelling

      • MostlyHarmless@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        How is Threads going to breach your privacy by federating with your instance? How is de federating from Threads going to protect your privacy?

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          10 months ago

          Do you think this is Threads’ final form? Embrace, extend, extinguish. This is what corporations do. Everything is a zero sum game in their minds, and they will act in the best interest of shareholders. That shit has no business here.

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            10 months ago

            I was going to reply but you nailed it. Its about outmaneuvering smaller competitors and controlling the marketplace, and then harvesting user data for profit.

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                  10 months ago

                  What point was that? If you don’t join Threads, they don’t have your data. They do have everything you publish to the Fediverse though, no matter what you do.

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                    10 months ago

                    Buddy…

                    Its about outmaneuvering smaller competitors and controlling the marketplace

                    Work on your reading retention instead of plastering your one-note hot take all over the convo. This exchange is over.

          • whofearsthenight@lemm.ee
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            10 months ago

            Embrace, extend, extinguish.

            Serious question: how?

            Second question: why?

            What are the mechanics by which they are going extend or extinguish the fediverse and how would they do that from a technical standpoint? Second, why when the entire fediverse with years of time behind it is a rounding error compared to a product they launched like 6 months ago. Why does Meta give a tiny shit about the fedi compared to TikTok, for example?

          • MostlyHarmless@sh.itjust.works
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            10 months ago

            Yeah, yeah, parrot the line and then please explain how?

            Extending means making extra functionality that others haven’t implemented, so that your offering is more attractive. You use it to build a walled garden. Defederation just skips that step and does it for them. They don’t even have to extend.

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              You missed the point of my comment. I don’t need to explain how, I’m sure they’ve got brilliant engineers working hard on it. This is just how capitalism works, Meta isn’t a benevolent force here, their ultimate goal is to make money off users and their data.

              I don’t need to figure out exactly how they will do it to know that they will.

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                10 months ago

                Ah, so just fear mongering and hoping that the fear based knee-jerk reaction isn’t actually playing directly into their hands.

    • krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 months ago

      We just don’t want history repeating itself like what happened with xmpp. Do you really think facebook of all companies is joining the fediverse with good intentions? Do you really think they’re not trying to monopolize this?

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        10 months ago

        Last I checked, the people using XMPP are still running happily using servers and clients.

        All 17 of them.

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          XMPP still exists - and I use it for chatting with one person. Nobody I know uses it. Techies I know use IRC and, more recently, Matrix. Or discord, disappointingly enough.

          And I mention techies because the rest of the world is just happy with WhatsApp/Messenger/Slack et al.

          What I’m getting at is that XMPP feels pretty dead in my experience. But who knows, maybe it would be in this same position regardless of Google like you allude to.

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          10 months ago

          I never mentioned google. And sure, xmpp exists but it’s dead and would be much better off if not for big tech giants

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        10 months ago

        I gotta ask… were you around and actively using xmpp around that time?

        Because I was. And xmpp struggling had nothing to do with Google