• MarciaLynnDorsett@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    i’m talking about the Pennsylvanian state in America,

    i’m not. i’m pennsylvanian in that there is a particular culture and shared identity that i would continue to use to identify even in the absence of the state. it’s an ethnicity whether you like it or not. you can’t gatekeep the existence of ethnicities, and you can’t gatekeep an ethnicity that you aren’t even part of.

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      3 months ago

      i’m not. i’m pennsylvanian in that there is a particular culture and shared identity that i would continue to use to identify even in the absence of the state. it’s an ethnicity whether you like it or not. you can’t gatekeep the existence of ethnicities, and you can’t gatekeep an ethnicity that you aren’t even part of.

      yeah and i also live in a state, my ethnicity is literally not that state though. My ethnicity is more broad than that, it has roots in europe, and it’s various traces of genaology.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnonym Maybe i didn’t link this last time, but this is the variant of demonym, but for ethnicity. In order for pennsylvania to be on the ethnicities list, it would have to have some form of long standing, genetic run through many, many years of human history, enough to the point where there is a pretty substantial genetic grouping between these people, in comparison to other people. The state’s largest ancestry groups, expressed as a percentage of total people who responded with a particular ancestry for the 2010 census, were German 28.5%, Irish 18.2%, Italian 12.8%, African Americans 9.6%, English 8.5%, Polish 7.2%, and French 4.2%.[102][103] if you have a look at the population demographic, fascinatingly, it’s primarily germanic, irish, italian, and the other usual suspects. Ethnicity is very broadly defined, but it’s generally as evidenced by basically every example of it, is extremely long running. Pennsylvania is like 200 years old. The vast majority of settlers would’ve been of european descent,

      The USSR existed for a shorter period of time, but a much more restricted period of time, and weirdly, is not it’s own ethnic majority. They’re all slavic.

      you can’t gatekeep the existence of ethnicities

      funnily, i’m not, i’m just arguing that it isn’t an ethnicity, because you have given me no reasonable evidence that leads me to believe that it is an actual ethnicity other than “trust me bro”

      and you can’t gatekeep an ethnicity that you aren’t even part of.

      arguably, you’re ascribing me an ethnicity that i don’t identify with, which is probably something that last i checked, you can’t do. But apparently i don’t make the rules here so.

      Unless you can give me an argument thats more compelling than the definition of demonym fitting the terminology you’re using, and how better than it currently does, i’m simply not going to agree with you.

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        3 months ago

        you’re ascribing me an ethnicity that i don’t identify with

        that never happened. your gas lighting and ethnocidal monologues are disgusting.

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          3 months ago

          by your definition of the word, if i lived in iowa, my ethnicity would iowan, but that’s just fundamentally not true.

          ethnocidal is a new one though, i’ll give you that.

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              3 months ago

              it doesn’t help that you aren’t providing any additional context or elaboration on your point. You literally just said you live in Pennsylvania, and therefore, you are ethnically Pennsylvanian.