• SaintNewts@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    I really hate that Windows does this. Which is why when I decide to switch a machine to Linux it’s the only OS allowed to boot to bare metal. Windows can go in a VM and suck it.

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      9 months ago

      Not sure why, but your comment made me think about the first machine I switched to Linux. It was a laptop who’s fan eventually had a bad bearing and needed to be replaced. Luckily it was still under warranty, so I sent the laptop in to get the fan replaced, and received my laptop back with Windows installed on it… I was so livid.

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          9 months ago

          Yup, exactly what they said. But I didn’t know any better at the time. These days I would just fix that myself rather than send it to them

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            Yeah, it’s a once in a lifetime thing lol, but it’s better to put that out on the off chance someone reading it may have to send one in.

            I hate to say it, but unless they’re corporate machines or you put it together yourself, computers are basically disposable these days.

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              Yeah, that is really sad. I’m actually due for a new laptop soon, I’m just very thankful that Framework exists now.

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        9 months ago

        Had something similar happen to me. Something unrelated to the OS or hard drive and they reformatted my drive and I lost everything. I was ballistic when I found that one out.

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      9 months ago

      Depending on your configuration, you can pass a gpu to your Windows VM so you don’t even lose any performance if you use Windows for gaming. All you need is an iGPU and a few extra cores/ram to handle the host overhead.

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    9 months ago

    What’s actually happening here is Windows is setting its bootloader first in your EFI when it gets updated. Linux isn’t gone, you just have to press the “boot another drive” button and boot to it, or go into your EFI setup and switch the bootloader back to the Linux one.

    Linuxes do the same thing when updating their bootloader.

    Note for the Ackshually crowd: If you’re still booting MBR (which comes with the partition eating risk on dual boots) you have a system that is older than Windows 8 - 11+ years old, so eating the MBR is something you’ll have to deal with unconventionally, as all modern systems, OS, and hardware expect you to be using EFI.

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    Never happened to me. Like ever. And I’ve been on Linux (with occasional dual-booting whenever I’m in a position where I need windows–) for like 15 years now?

    To be honest a lot of stuff people talk about seems to not happen to me and I think I might be exceedingly lucky or smth.

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      Same. Never happened to me either. But I usually make a sperate UEFI partition for Linux instead of relying on grub.

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          That’s actually more safe. Windows can rewrite the UEFI setting to make itself the default again (although that’s of course easy to fix). But it can’t change your BIOS boot order.

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            When I booted into Windows 8.1 on my 2016 desktop computer, it immediately destroyed my boot loader for Ubuntu making it impossible to boot. I can’t confirm if it was BIOS or UEFI though. I had to use a convoluted technique to restore the boot loader for it to load Ubuntu afterwards each time I ran Windows.

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        If you don’t want to bother with the bootloader like the other comment mentioned you can also just use the boot menu from the motherboard instead. You gotta mash f11 (or whatever it is on your motherboard) on boot when you want to go into Windows, but if you only need it every once in a while it is good enough.

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    9 months ago

    Just protect bios/uefi with password and windows won’t be able to modify any other EFI entry. It worked when i’ve dual-booted, it should still work.

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      How can I do that? I’m dual booting but was not aware of this, makes me a little nervous…

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        No need to worry, it’s in your BIOS under security section. You can check if you set correct one by trying to change boot device: if there’s password prompt, you’re now safe from windows update “repair”.

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      This. I entirely understand that some people don’t have that option, but it’s worth reiterating that if you have a choice, you’re best off not to have partitions at all.

      I run Mint on an 8-year-old Mac desktop machine with no partitions and it’s lightning-fast for everything I need it to do.

      It’s also worth mentioning that I have said desktop machine because my wife is a pro photographer and Apple and Adobe have colluded for decades to create a kind of “planned obsolescence” whereby professional photographers are ostensibly locked out of the current industry standard unless they run a very recent version of Photoshop that by design isn’t compatible with hardware architecture that’s more than about 5-years-old.

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        Partitioning is good even if you’re just running Linux. Specifically separating your / from your /home/ – In case shit goes wrong you can nuke the OS side and keep all your files and shit. (also, mandatory for UEFI systems cuz you also need a /boot/efi partition)

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    9 months ago

    Never happened to me. Fedora had completely deleted Windows bootloader once though and didn’t even recognize the existence of Windows on install in the first place.