I am tempted to start using the @Vivaldi browser but then I looked* at the diversity in the underlying technology and I think it is better to promote and start using @firefox :firefox: more.
Or should we leave it to #Google :omya_google: and #Apple :apple_inc: only❓
I’m curious 😅 @Vivaldi why not use SpiderMonkey and Gecko❓
*Table was created with the help of #Bard
Vivaldi is not fully open-source
it’s source-available
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Your moms source available.
(Sorry… I’m feeling goofy today)
@mr_MADAFAKA would be nice it was.
On the other hand it has cool build in functionality.
Firefox + uBlock Origin is the only thing that makes mobile browsing tolerable. Ads are so bad, and web design so poor, that even if you’re someone who is usually ok with advertising you’ll often find that sites are literally broken if you allow them to render.
You can use Cromite (Bromite fork) or Kiwi Browser as well if you’re on Android
I believe those are both Chromium, right? I’m suspicious that when manifest v2 support ends in Chromium it will kill ad blockers across the Chromium market.
Cromite uses some built-in adblocker based off ABP and doesn’t have extensions
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Safari isn’t open source but there’s Gnome Web.
It’s built on the open source WebKit engine.
also yeah you made a mistake there. webkit is in fact foss.Avoid proprietary software.
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Google Chrome, Opera, Microsoft Edge and Vivaldi are not open source. Chromium is open source but all those browsers add additional proprietary functionality on top.
Edit: I read the table wrong. The open source columns seem to be about their left column. Still, I find the table to be misleading. Especially since almost all browsers use an open source engine, except Safari. Imo it’s more important whether the actual browser is open source. Which boils down to Firefox and Tor and Brave as far as I know.
were opera is open source lmao
most of that list is not opensource, only firefox, everything has just chromium as opensource, what don’t change anything because the company can put the same crappy on top of chromium
I mean the list never said that the browser is opensource. The opensource column is for the respective technology to the left of it. So it describes if the js and browser engines are opensource.
I used to use Opera back when they had their own JavaScript and rendering engine, then bailed and switched back to Firefox when they became a chromium clone.
That’s a weird chart in the thumbnail.
Almost all of the common chromium based browsers, but only mainline firefox.
Anyway, it’s definitely a good thing to use more than just the chrome based browsers for the exact reason you said.
However, vivaldi is a decent choice for when you need to. Yeah, their ui isn’t open source, but it really doesn’t matter in real world use. The only other option for me is ungoogled chromium, and cromite on android.
On android, my main browser is mull, with Iibrewolf on PC. I can’t say any non chromium browsers are perfect on android, but mull is plenty fast and does everything you want it to do, and doesn’t do what you don’t want.
Probably because chromium based browsers are often marketed as completely separate ones. Browsers based on it want to make the impression that they are a unique browser with outstanding functionality etc.
Edge? It’s Edge, OUR BROWSER, YOU DON’T NEED ANYTHING ELSE.
Vivaldi? It’s Vivaldi, “we built the best browser with most features blabla”.
Opera? It’s Opera, “better, faster and more secure than a default browser”.
In contrast, librewolf.net’s first sentence is literally “A custom version of Firefox…”. Mullvad also says it’s a collaboration with Tor, and a paragraph down they explicitly say it’s Tor, and therefore FF, based.
Many users, me included, don’t see Librewolf or Tor as separate browsers, because the former is basically just a preconfigured FF, and the latter adds an access point to the Tor network and removes some privacy/security harming features (eg. Sync). The Browser, its features, design and features, stay the same.
You can use Floorp, which is a soft fork of Firefox with Vivaldi features
Maybe Gecko still hasn’t become embeddable again❓:
https://www.chrislord.net/2016/02/24/the-case-for-an-embeddable-gecko/For the Vivaldi choice : https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/#Whats_in_an_engine
@Vivaldi @firefox @velox_vulnus
Statcounter has different stats, with #Firefox at 0.53% so that would make it even less and on the desktop it is probably not much better.
Do we need/want an alternative browser engine❓ If the anser is yes then we probably need to use :firefox: at bit more.
#Webdev is focused on Safari and Chrome as that is what the vast majority uses.
Having only 2 to worry about is making testing easier. 😅
https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/worldwide
We had that monopoly thing with ie already and it was marvelous when, for a short time, you developed for a perfect score with the acid test.
Personally I’m hyped for Servo
I think it’s years off until it’s usable though. Their current focus is on embedded devices iirc because no engine does that well
Sure but it’s something to be hyped for.
Yeah for sure
@PropaGandalf Didn’t know @servo , looks interesting
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https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/
awhile now, about 2008
@fradie_new @Vivaldi @firefox wow that’s a very comprehensive compare. Thx👍
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