https://reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1dofyj1/how_did_mozilla_firefox_go_from_being_the_best/

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Seriously, every post I read that’s upvoted is smack talking Mozilla in every way possible and it just so happens to take place exactly when Google quietly announces Manifest V3. Mozilla is not our enemy, Google is. Don’t let all these bot upvoted comments and posts let you forget that. Has Mozilla made some questionable moves lately? Yeah… the biggest being the purchase of Anonym. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-anonym-raising-the-bar-for-privacy-preserving-digital-advertising/

We’ll just have to wait and see how that turns out. But I found it amusing when I saw this post and it got so many upvotes immediately after Mozilla announced the purchase. https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1dkujuh/mozilla_anonym_is_a_datahoovering_monster/

Then Mozilla allegedly fired someone because he has cancer. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/mozilla-is-trying-to-push-me-out-because-i-have-cancer-cpo-says-in-bombshell-lawsuit/ar-BB1oOjOZ

Then I was reading Mozilla android browser is suddenly the worst and least secure android browser.

It’s never ending… Honestly I think I am just going to take some time away from Reddit because it’s becoming such a corporate shill and bot upvoted cesspool. I’m sure this will get heavily down-voted but I just wanted to give my two cents. Mozilla will always be my preferred choice for privacy and security and unless I see some actual changes within the browsers no one will ever convince me otherwise.

  • It all started with Apple choosing KDE’s KHTML instead of Gecko. Then it was compounded when Chrome forked WebKit to develop Chromium. Mozilla tried to modernize their engine but it was too little too late with the rise of the mobile web.

    • SupraMario@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Yup, moved back to it from chrome about a year ago. It’s more stable than chrome was to me. Sounds like some corporate bullshit pushing the Mozilla hate.

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    4 months ago

    It’s happening on lemmy too. People making posts in multiple subs saying that FF is super buggy, etc.

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      I wouldn’t say they are wrong, I’ve got plenty of issues with Firefox that aren’t in chromium-based browsers. Mostly with media playback, but on Android the toolbar hide on scroll is a mess, no matter what it just covers the page. Makes it really hard to use a menu or click a button depending on where it is. I also have some locally run services that throw js errors in FF but not in cromite, chromium, or chrome.

      Doesn’t mean I don’t prefer FF because I acknowledge it has problems. I don’t generally view videos in my browser anyway, and I disable the hide-on-scroll feature. And if I have a particularly problematic site (the js errors), I open cromite or whatever.

      The bigger issue isn’t people talking about bugs, but downplaying the role the foundation plays in supporting users. That, imo, is where a lot of misinformation and disinformation seems to live.

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    I stopped using Firefox for 2-3 years before coming back. FF WAS very buggy, crashing almost every day. I understand why it has a bad reputation.

    When I reinstalled FF the bugs were gone, I hope it stays that way.

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    The Mozilla corp burns user goodwill like it’s an unlimited resource. A lot of us are just sick of Mozilla’s corporate shit.

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    Firefox and it’s forks are the best browsers. They are still not very good. There are a ton of bad decisions and poor code. From old legacy stuff like how user profiles are stored to closed source shit like pocket.

    The mozilla foundation has been on a downhill slide since google hired the skilled programmers to make chrome. Bad leadership,poor spending, and stupid priorities.

    So yes firefox is the best browser. But that’s kind of like being the best cable company. Not exactly a great thing.

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    Reddit is full of bots posting whatever the payer wants to promote. This sudden hatred of Firefox by all these reddit accounts sure does line up with Chrome manifest V3 coming out … Coincidence? I think not

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    OP of the reddit post is doing a pretty good job pointing out themselves why Mozilla is hated. They pretend to be pro-privacy and defend the internet from Google, while making mad cash from none other than google, introducing garbage like DoH to cloudflare, pocket, cliqz in Germany, and cucking to drm standards. Anonym is just the latest trash on heap that is Mozilla’s track record.

    There are alternative browsers (webengine, webkit, Ladybird, Netsurf, text only (in order of supported features)). Do they support every web standard perfectly? Do they have the same level of extension support? Maybe not, but they’re good enough for most usecases. Stop pretending Mozilla and Google are the only options.

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    There are real issues with Mozilla, but most of these people are complaining about nothing. Constantly whining about every little thing to the point you would think they are saying they are worse than Google.

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    in my experience the browser went through a poor engineering phase just as Chrome was getting good, and that continued for quite some time, the mobile browser took a very wayward turn a few years ago

    oddly this happened at the same time as Rust and Firefox OS appeared which i think are phenomenal achievements

    so Chrome ate Firefox’s lunch and the series of weird CEOs have compounded that by attempting to cover it up with progressive sounding PR

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    Reddit being shite isn’t news, it turned shit a long, long time ago.

    Mozilla may have made some stupid decisions but Firefox is by far ye best browser our there this moment

    The marketing company Google can go pound a pineapple

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    4 months ago

    The amount of fucks I give about what reddit thinks is practically negative at this point. Bot-infected, corporate, ad-obscured, power-tripping-mod, anti-user, sell-your-content-to-AI toxic swamp.