I’m wondering at what point if any would I give up when it comes to privacy, obviously I’ve been overseas from australia (which is bad in itself for internet surveillance) but at least here our laws in terms of discrimination and rights are good in comparison to say, china or the uae.
should it be reasonable for me to bring a different phone or try to remove any or all personal/identifiable information from my current one beforehand?
Is it also reasonable for me to pay for more private cloud storage or would it be completely useless? if so, are there any options you would recommend?
Or maybe I am freaking out? I managed to visit the UAE and didn’t even think about privacy, and nothing bad seemed to happen.
if I was travelling abroad I would not be bringing anything that has universal access to my accounts or data (primary phone for example). I would most likely get a new device loaded only with what I needed to get things done using a new account I transferred money into. For the most part I would not expect any issues but the laws at most borders, even US international borders generally say they can clean you out of all your data and force you to log into any devices you have with you. So the 2 countries mentioned are only part of the story when it comes to privacy when travelling international.
While I don’t particularly disagree with anything said, know that customs and security always look for irregularities. No one doesn’t bring their phone. If you show up with this story of privacy and whatnot, they’ll flag you. And start asking questions.
I always try to blend in rather than take my beliefs across the world. You can live how you want in your country of residence, but don’t take that mentality to other parts of the world.
It’s not a right to enter another country, it’s a privilege. You are a guest.
And they are going to know the differences between my flagship loaded with creds and the base model i just bought and loaded just the travel apps? I didn’t say don’t bring anything, I said don’t bring anything with real access.
I don’t care about privacy more than I care about having my gear confiscated and it taking months to return should they decide to make me thier day.
They can start asking the questions - I’m not some terrorist with a made-up tale, I’m here on a business trip.
I’m not saying they’ll throw you in jail because you didn’t bring a phone. But they’ll flag it. It’s weird. Especially on business.
And remember, countries don’t give a shit if you’re on business. Lots of people think that’s a free pass. It’s not.
These guys can deny access or even blacklist you. But fuck around and find out I guess.
If I went on leisure, then I’d be worried about all the money I’ve spent on the trip. But if it’s business, then I’ve got nothing to worry about. At most I’d only have business phone and business laptop, which doesn’t have any personal data anyways.
Depends also on your employer. My boss would not be too happy if he flew me across the world and I was denied access because of some dumb shit.
I’m not saying they’ll take you away to the Gulag, but just to be cautious when dealing with border security.
Point of interest, I used to ship lots of stuff across the border when our money was good. I had shit in my trunk, well organized, but still stuff. When I would drive over, I’d empty it. Or just keep a few things (my car was immaculate anyway). No issues, ever.
The odd time I was too lazy, more questions. Longer wait. Had one guy ask to pop the trunk.
Just saying, your life is way better if you show up with the intent to make all their lives easier.
Try it in china and let us know how it goes! If they allow computer access from prison
Who in their right mind would go to there?
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It happens more often on the border of the US for foreigners than for foreigners coming to China