Context (for those who don’t know): Israel and Palestine

  • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    35
    ·
    1 year ago

    Palestine is not a religious entity, and have been in favor of religious coexistence since the very beginning. It is the Zionist state that is exclusive of other religions by design.

    • Chr0nos1@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      31
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      All the yelling of “Allahu akbar” while celebrating the death and destruction in Israel, would seem to be in conflict with your statement.

      • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        29
        ·
        1 year ago

        yelling of “Allahu akbar”

        Saying “God is great” is problematic?

        celebrating the death and destruction in Israel

        They are resisting against the Zionist state founded on genocide and exclusivism. I don’t see that violating their will for coexistance.

        • Chr0nos1@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          21
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          1 year ago

          When they’re celebrating the killing of civilians at a dance party, or the beheading of babies, it is a problem. Religion is the cancer that keeps that entire region either at war, or the brink of war

            • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              Your link shows several quotes from the idf… all of which says “we cannot confirm” not any confirmation of the statement being a lie that i can see. Nor is there any evidence that an official Israeli representative started this story.

              Stop lying about “evidence” before responding.

              • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                1 year ago

                They previously presented as fact. Now they’re saying they can’t confirm it and cannot present any evidence. I don’t believe they have to spell out “we lied” for it to be obvious.

        • OtakuAltair@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Saying “God is great” is problematic?

          Forgot a “while murdering and beheading innocent civilians” there

    • Flumsy@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      So then, why is their official goal to destroy Israel? Thats 100% a religious war

      • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        Israel is by its own definition the Zionist state founded on religious exclusivism. An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities. It should absolutely be taken down.

        religious war

        Israel is not Judaism.

        • Flumsy@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.

          • In land bordering the lands of lther religions and ethnicities.

          What exactly justifies the takedown of Israel? That its religion is different or what? Thats none of ghe other countries business.

          • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            1 year ago

            as I already said above, it is because it is an ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc). It has engaged in massacre and forced expulsion of those people, so it must be taken down and the genocide must cease.

            • Flumsy@feddit.de
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)

              So what? Thats their business what rules they want to have inside their country. Thats nl reason to attack them.

              forced expulsion of those people, so it must be taken down and the genocide must cease.

              Forced expulsion is dtill inside their own country. So you take them down with a genocide yourself? Fight fire with fire?

              • Bob@feddit.nl
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                So what? Thats their business what rules they want to have inside their country.

                Come on…

              • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                No it is not their business to genocide ethnic and religious minorities lmao. Would you say the same about the Nazis too? was the US justified in genociding native americans also? ridiculous.

                Forced expulsion is dtill inside their own country

                yes it is. I hope you dont mean that this makes it better. I may be failing to understand this genocide sympathizer logic.

                So you take them down with a genocide yourself?

                No. The only one committing genocide at the moment and in this conflict is Israel itself.

                • Flumsy@feddit.de
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  was the US justified in genociding native americans also?

                  No. Would you say its justified to attack the US today (because of that genocide)? I certainly wouldnt.