I mean, I don’t disagree, but at some point it’s gotta change if one is going to ever be able to have desktop apps that run sandboxed. X was never designed to have untrusted and trusted apps running on the same desktop, and the ways of approximating that are non-ideal.
What WM are you using? If it’s sticking specific application windows on specific workspaces, i3 can do that:
Why does the entire Linux community assume that sandboxed apps are something we all want/need these days? I have no interest in sandboxed apps tbh. It makes sense for certain situations but I’m happy without them. I don’t like how Flatpak isolates all apps’ config files off into their little sandboxes and makes editing config files annoying. I just want stuff maintained in a central package manager and I want to use software that’s trustworthy enough that it doesn’t need to be sandboxed in the first place.
I use Wayland, but mainly because VRR support is better (except having to keep rebuilding mutter-vrr every time GNOME updates) and I don’t get screen tearing. Couldn’t care any less than I do now about sandboxed apps or unnecessary forced security. I hate that screen capture gets broken on a lot of programs running in Wayland and that global keybinds get messed up because of “designed with security in mind” bullshit. An operating system’s job should be to provide software with the features it needs, not to restrict said features.
I don’t like how Flatpak isolates all apps’ config files off into their little sandboxes and makes editing config files annoyin
In my opinion this is one of the best features of Flatpak, as it allows you to uninstall applications cleanly without leaving random files (or entries in your registry / dconf database) all over your computer. Since my first Android phone I always admired how Android handles uninstallation of apps and thanks to Flatpak I can finally have a similar experience on my Linux PCs.
It also allows me to keep a clean home directory, as I don’t allow any Flatpak app to write into the root of my home directory (via global override). So any application (e. g. Firefox) that thinks it is more important than the XDG Base Directory Specification can no longer clutter up my home directory and instead gets redirected to its Flatpak home in ~/.var.
These two use cases alone sold me on Flatpak two years ago and I’ve since migrated all my computers to Flatpak and I wouldn’t want to go back. I can’t understand how (Windows) users still put up with applications reading from and writing into random directories on their PCs and creating or modifying random entries in the registry.
I mean, I don’t disagree, but at some point it’s gotta change if one is going to ever be able to have desktop apps that run sandboxed. X was never designed to have untrusted and trusted apps running on the same desktop, and the ways of approximating that are non-ideal.
What WM are you using? If it’s sticking specific application windows on specific workspaces, i3 can do that:
https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html
And I understand that sway is mostly compatible with i3.
Why does the entire Linux community assume that sandboxed apps are something we all want/need these days? I have no interest in sandboxed apps tbh. It makes sense for certain situations but I’m happy without them. I don’t like how Flatpak isolates all apps’ config files off into their little sandboxes and makes editing config files annoying. I just want stuff maintained in a central package manager and I want to use software that’s trustworthy enough that it doesn’t need to be sandboxed in the first place.
I use Wayland, but mainly because VRR support is better (except having to keep rebuilding mutter-vrr every time GNOME updates) and I don’t get screen tearing. Couldn’t care any less than I do now about sandboxed apps or unnecessary forced security. I hate that screen capture gets broken on a lot of programs running in Wayland and that global keybinds get messed up because of “designed with security in mind” bullshit. An operating system’s job should be to provide software with the features it needs, not to restrict said features.
In my opinion this is one of the best features of Flatpak, as it allows you to uninstall applications cleanly without leaving random files (or entries in your registry / dconf database) all over your computer. Since my first Android phone I always admired how Android handles uninstallation of apps and thanks to Flatpak I can finally have a similar experience on my Linux PCs.
It also allows me to keep a clean home directory, as I don’t allow any Flatpak app to write into the root of my home directory (via global override). So any application (e. g. Firefox) that thinks it is more important than the XDG Base Directory Specification can no longer clutter up my home directory and instead gets redirected to its Flatpak home in
~/.var.These two use cases alone sold me on Flatpak two years ago and I’ve since migrated all my computers to Flatpak and I wouldn’t want to go back. I can’t understand how (Windows) users still put up with applications reading from and writing into random directories on their PCs and creating or modifying random entries in the registry.