But to a much lesser extent on some things in the modern day.
For example, China suppressing Uyghurs is on a level the US hasn’t done since Japanese concentration camps in WWII. And it’s been since maybe the US annexing Texas or manefest destiny since they’ve done covert or overt invasion like Ukraine, Georgia, Hong Kong, or planning with Taiwan.
@JohnDClay@turkishdelight Zenz repurposes the pro-life argument that reduced birth rates are genocide to make it look like Xinjiang getting free healthcare & women who had 3 kids already receiving tubal ligations/ etc. is genocide the same way KKK guys think modernity is white genocide. China literally trained these people to be bilingual realtors and stuff like that, it wasn’t even a mega trade program or something. They got people to white collar shit Xinjiang is rich
@conditional_soup Yes. When BBC did a documentary on the training programs they literally showed people going to dancing classes and freely returning home. There was heavy surveillance but there are some really freaky Wahabbists out there not sure if you heard about the riot in Urumbi that killed like 200 people. They literally had to stop random knife attacks in the subway coming from ISIS linked groups, goes back to US and Saudi funding as far back as Operation Cyclone. Damn charlimit!
@conditional_soup If you’ve heard of the one child policy here’s a fun fact none of you “China watchers” know. Most regions and/or minority groups did not get affected. If you were Han or anything in Tibet, or a minority any placd, you could be fruitful and multiply. Just an example of how China deliberately gives minority groups boosted democratic representation, healthcare access, training, and cultural representation. Which is what responsible nations should do (glaring at indian res)
@JohnDClay@turkishdelight That’s really interesting that the evidence-free allegations pushed by far-right evangelical Adrian Zenz at the Jamestown Foundation (who believes some nations represent beasts of the biblical Apocalypse & nuclear war will bring the Rapture, but I digress (IN REALITY HE WORSHIPS MAMMON WHAT A RUBE LOL)) in coordination with the State Dept. specifically recalls our past atrocities. Internment, Islamaphobia, and chattel slavery. All lies
Huh? Pretty sure Guantanamo Bay is still open to this day. Not on the same scale nowadays, sure; but the CCP never claimed freedom as part of its core values either.
Reading comprehension really is a struggle sometimes. They specifically mentioned scale in their comment. Also, I kinda feel like being open about genocide doesn’t make it better.
They also compared Japanese U.S. internment camps during WWII to the current suppression of Uyghurs in China so maybe take what they say with a grain of salt.
But to a much lesser extent on some things in the modern day.
For example, China suppressing Uyghurs is on a level the US hasn’t done since Japanese concentration camps in WWII. And it’s been since maybe the US annexing Texas or manefest destiny since they’ve done covert or overt invasion like Ukraine, Georgia, Hong Kong, or planning with Taiwan.
@JohnDClay @turkishdelight Zenz repurposes the pro-life argument that reduced birth rates are genocide to make it look like Xinjiang getting free healthcare & women who had 3 kids already receiving tubal ligations/ etc. is genocide the same way KKK guys think modernity is white genocide. China literally trained these people to be bilingual realtors and stuff like that, it wasn’t even a mega trade program or something. They got people to white collar shit Xinjiang is rich
We’re the tubal ligations voluntary?
@conditional_soup *Urumqi god this charlimit is so awful I can do 5000 but 500 is grueling. Sorry for triple tapping ya
@conditional_soup Yes. When BBC did a documentary on the training programs they literally showed people going to dancing classes and freely returning home. There was heavy surveillance but there are some really freaky Wahabbists out there not sure if you heard about the riot in Urumbi that killed like 200 people. They literally had to stop random knife attacks in the subway coming from ISIS linked groups, goes back to US and Saudi funding as far back as Operation Cyclone. Damn charlimit!
@conditional_soup If you’ve heard of the one child policy here’s a fun fact none of you “China watchers” know. Most regions and/or minority groups did not get affected. If you were Han or anything in Tibet, or a minority any placd, you could be fruitful and multiply. Just an example of how China deliberately gives minority groups boosted democratic representation, healthcare access, training, and cultural representation. Which is what responsible nations should do (glaring at indian res)
Is there a country in the Middle East that America hasn’t bombed or invaded?
Is there one that is part of the US now?
There are still American soldiers in most of them.
Occupied territories yes.
And there’s a US colony committing a genocide in Palestine right now.
@JohnDClay @turkishdelight That’s really interesting that the evidence-free allegations pushed by far-right evangelical Adrian Zenz at the Jamestown Foundation (who believes some nations represent beasts of the biblical Apocalypse & nuclear war will bring the Rapture, but I digress (IN REALITY HE WORSHIPS MAMMON WHAT A RUBE LOL)) in coordination with the State Dept. specifically recalls our past atrocities. Internment, Islamaphobia, and chattel slavery. All lies
Huh? Pretty sure Guantanamo Bay is still open to this day. Not on the same scale nowadays, sure; but the CCP never claimed freedom as part of its core values either.
Reading comprehension really is a struggle sometimes. They specifically mentioned scale in their comment. Also, I kinda feel like being open about genocide doesn’t make it better.
They also compared Japanese U.S. internment camps during WWII to the current suppression of Uyghurs in China so maybe take what they say with a grain of salt.
You think reeducation camps to kill a culture are different?
You think Japanese camps were to kill a culture?
I think the camps for the Uyghurs are.
Do you think the current treatment of Uyghurs by China is comparable to treatment of Japanese people in US internment camps during WWII?
Sorry it seems you may have forgotten one of the cardinal rules around here, you can only say bad things about America, everything else is bigotry