• AdmiralShat@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    I mean

    There was this whole thing called the Soviet Union then there was like a missile crisis

    And there was like a group that called themselves National Socialists and they did a genocide and tried to take over a bunch of land by force

    We also had to fight a bunch of talking trees that dug tunnels because military industrial complex and heroin

    It’s definitely many layers of propaganda but as an American I definitely understand WHERE it comes from, I understand why most people here flinch at the word.

    You also gotta understand we had multiple generations in a row huffing lead gasoline so while younger millennials aren’t impacted as bad, MOST Americans are legitimately lead brained.

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      5 months ago

      called themselves national socialists

      Those are the guys who were famous for their propaganda (amongst other things)?

      Also, N Korea calls itself “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea”. People call themselves all kinds of things to get what they want.

      It might be the “National” part of “National Socialist” that ended up being the one that caused all the trouble, I think.

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      It wasn’t just leaded gasoline. I was busy getting hot boxed with cigarettes in my grandparent’s leaded gasoline car before burning some asbestos, plastic cutlery, and batteries in the living room fireplace.

      Forget no seatbelts or bicycle helmets. Our chemical exposure would probably send a younger person without a built up tolerance into instant seizure.

      I also remember crimping down lead shot sinkers on my fishing line with my teeth. Good times. Good times indeed.

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      Bruh

      The Nazis were literally IN Europe. The USSR literally built a WALL here splitting the continent. And you’re saying that explains why America is the one with socialism PTSD???

      Ain’t nothing more American than making everything about you I guess.

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        4 months ago

        I guess you can’t fucking read lol, the comment I’m replying to was TALKING ABOUT AMERICANS. I didn’t make it about Americans the fucking European did.

        Holy shit dude how did you fuck that up so bad

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          But European don’t panic at the mention of socialism (what the comment you’re replying to was talking about) yet the Europeans have suffered FAR MORE from your examples of “socialism” than Americans. You can’t explain away how American politics differ from European politics by appropriating European tragedies.

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            4 months ago

            You are so shoved up your own ass it’s insane. Firstly, really bad reading skills. I never justified the response, just that I understand the origins. For fucks sake use your brain a little before attacking someone and sounding like a dunce for it.

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              But it DOES NOT explain the origins. The USSR and the Nazis are not CAUSES. They CAN’T BE because otherwise Europe would never integrated elements of socialism!

              I think we actually agree on that, it’s just semantics at this point. Whatever.

              Also watch your aggressiveness. I didn’t call you names and I expect the same in return.