Apple has decided to remove Progressive web apps from iOS in EU. If you have a business in the EU or serve EU users via Web App/PWA, we must hear from you in the next 48 hours!

    • bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      It’s weird then that Firefox on the desktop doesn’t support them.

      Just think on why that might be. Why both Mozilla and Apple would be opposed to something that Google is in favor of.

      I mean, if pwas are no big deal then surely a platform other than chromium and android combined would be gladly embracing this new technology.

      I’m really not trying to argue from a position of aged authority, but pwas are bad. I know because every time some way to make a webpage just like a program and also escape the browser has come up it’s been bad.

      And when you look at it as a power struggle between big corporations pwas are being pushed by Google, the bad one.

      I know that’s not convincing so let me ask you this: what would be? What would convince you that despite Apple being your enemy, pwas are bad?

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        9 months ago

        Why both Mozilla and Apple would be opposed to something that Google is in favor of.

        We don’t know Mozilla’s stance on it. (If you know, please link a source) Maybe they just won’t bother unless a full spec is out, who knows. And Apple isn’t opposed since they support it. They just don’t want anyone else to support it so they shut it down in the EU.

        I mean, if pwas are no big deal then surely a platform other than chromium and android combined would be gladly embracing this new technology.

        What platform? Chromium is extremely dominating and Firefox (and* derivatives) are pretty much their only competitor and Firefox just happens to lack much support (they support some stuff though).

        Considering how big chromium is there is really no space for anyone else to actively not support it because they are so insignificant that it doesn’t matter.

        Windows, Linux, macOS, iOS (Non EU) supports PWAs. What more do you want?

        Microsoft (and Google) supports the publication of PWAs to their application store: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/progressive-web-apps-chromium/

        I know because every time some way to make a webpage just like a program and also escape the browser has come up it’s been bad.

        I don’t understand what you are trying to say here.

        What would convince you that despite Apple being your enemy, pwas are bad?

        I dunno, facts? If they dropped PWAs in the rest of the world as well then it would still be an asshole thing to do (if their app store and ecosystem remains locked down) but it would come across as equally petty.

        People should be allowed to use PWAs if they do damn well please. But no, Apple wants their “core platform fee” bullshit so they shut down PWAs in the EU.

        Anyways, luckily the EU is investigating Apple for this: https://www.shacklefree.in/https://www.ft.com/content/d2f7328c-5851-4f16-8f8d-93f0098b6adc

        Apple has always been incredibly anti-competitive (No I,m not saying Google is good either, but maybe better) which destroys any trust in cases like this: