It can be like this even when you are 18

  • gdog05@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Wow. A lot of judging and misinformation in reply to your post. I didn’t really expect so much of that on Lemmy.

    If you’ve got ADHD or a schizo-affective disorder, nicotine seems to help with anxiety and focus from those conditions. More than the nicotine, the act of purposely inhaling anything causes you to focus on breathing (even for a short time) and when anxiety is running you, your breath is key. Now, that said, inhaling anything in concentration is not without risks. Some are way, way worse than others. Vaping is definitely on the low end of the risk category. Smoking is strongly on the other end.

    This is something that seems to be missed by many commenters. Prescribed drugs come with many risks as well. Societally, we’ve accepted that treating some of our issues are worth these risks. Weight gain, weight loss, bowel issues, sleep issues, lack of focus are common issues across the spectrum of anti anxiety drugs. And then if or when those symptoms get bad enough, you get another med to counteract the drug symptoms and those can affect kidneys, blood sugar, energy levels. Just because you’re prescribed something that has been deemed safe doesn’t mean it isn’t doing damage to your body. It’s all a trade-off of happiness vs health to some degree. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take medication if you deem it necessary. The side effects are probably worth the change you’re needing. And it doesn’t mean you should vape even if you think it helps. But be as informed as you can while being as happy and healthy as you can. That’s all you can do. There are things in life a lot worse than nicotine or Wellbutrin that you don’t get a choice over. I wouldn’t fret about them too much.

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      As a person with ADHD, I can’t say nicotine by any means reduces anxiety or helps to focus; on the contrary, the only time I don’t vape for prolonged periods of time are when I’m concentrated on smth challenging, and otherwise it’s somewhat like tapping my leg or spinning a pen with the addition of feeling worse when there’s not enough nicotine in my body.

      On the other hand, ADHD individuals are more susceptible to substance abuse disorders, so going in that craphole is not worse it. (e.g. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-019-0581-7)

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      9 months ago

      You seem to argue the following:

      • If you have schizophrenia or ADHD, nicotine might help
      • Smoking is significantly worse than vaping
      • Prescribed drugs carry risks
      • Everything is a tradeoff between health and happiness
      • There are things worse than nicotine, so you shouldn’t worry about nicotine

      I disagree because:

      • Prescription meds or therapy don’t just seem like they help but have been proven to help with mental health
      • Smoking might be worse but that doesn’t change the fact that vaping is still bad
      • Yes, risks, but that’s better than something that’s proven to be harmful.
      • Mental health and physical health are connected. Something like exercise might help with both.
      • It’s irrelevant that there are things that are worse, it’s not a valid reason to start a nicotine addiction.

      If I have misunderstood any of your arguments, please correct me.

      This comment was based on gdog’s edit from Friday, February 9th, 2024 at 3:04:39 AM GMT+01:00

    • The_Lopen@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      That’s a lot of words that may or may not be backed by science. I certainly will never know, I’m not finding your sources for you.

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        9 months ago

        I don’t care what you or don’t do with anything I said. I’m not living your life for you. If you care, the info is a Google away. If you don’t, then my post wasn’t meant for you.

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      9 months ago

      I can’t wait until like 90 decades in the future when we see oil lobby talking points like this just casually in the wild.