I’m looking for something that can do chat, video calling with support for guess links and chats. I need it to work in the browser so I can send people a link to a chat session. Bonus if it has a simple mobile app and calendar integration.
Anyone know of something that isn’t Nextcloud Chat?
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You want either mattermost or the whole matrix stack (backend, plus element with voice/video calls).
Matrix/Element is more of a discord alternative, whereas mattermost tries to be more of a slack alternative, where it seems to have some calendar integrations.
I haven’t tried it myself but Mattermost offers most of what you’re looking for.
I think a gitlab install has most of mattermost inside it, and that means installation and updates are handled. I found the install of MatterMost via its devs used to be very naive, but the gitlab people did something right in vendoring it into their massive install. Gitlab-ce is bloated as heck, but it’s fire-and-forget on the proper platform and may allow inter-org linking with or without the matter bridge thing (which itself affords some interoperability).
Check out Big Blue Button - https://demo.bigbluebutton.org/
Their website talks all about using it for teaching students but it’s really just like Jitsi with more features.
Big bluebutton is now integrated into Canvas, an open source learning management software (LMS) that every school I have went to has used.
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Self hosting allows you to improve screen share framerate
We use this at work. Great for screen sharing and video chat
I like Jitsi, but when I record a session it always silently aborts after about 40 minutes.
- no enterprise packaging
- java?
I mean, that’s two strikes, but I know the people whom 8x8 bought in like 2019 so there’s hope. Like, wow, their video-conf app and service was astoundingly good.
I think Mattermost is intended to be just that.
Matrix with the Jitsi meet plugin.
I have not tried Matrix yet but I hear it’s a good replacement, fashioned more to the likes of Discord but I think it has everything you’re looking for
I’ve been using matrix for quite a while now and I’m very happy with it.
The thing to be aware of though is that it takes quite a bit of work to get started, but once you’ve got it up and running it doesn’t need much coddling. It’s got video calling built into it now and can be entirely web based if you want it to be. I have all of my signal, WhatsApp and SMS messages being brodged over through it which is handy. I’ve also got a discord bridge set up which will bring all DMs and let’s me bridge any of the servers I want to bring over.
it’s been my one app for communicating with anyone that wants to talk to me on any IM platform I use, as well as any of the federated rooms and spaces I want to access from other home servers I want to work with.
Edit: I also recently added authentication via oidc which was great as now I don’t need to worry about passwords as I just authenticate with passkeys on most of my self hosted services.
No!
I’ve been using self-hosted Jitsi Meet for a few weeks now. Works perfectly. Haven’t tried the calendar feature, though.
Element Server Suite Community https://github.com/element-hq/ess-helm
I would suggest avoiding anything that is a “community” or “personal use only”. If its not fully open its not worth it.
Huly is pretty amazing and has a self host option. It supports chats and video calls, team rooms, and has some cool integration for speech to text note taking. It also functions as a task tracker.
Under super active development right now so host only if you can deal with occasional breaking changes.
Idk, I’ve heard things about HooliChat… Didn’t their stream go down in the middle of a big title fight?
Plus that Gavin Belson guy keeps trying to jam his horrible signature into his products.
That guy is the woooorst
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It’s already breaking ISO27002 in a few ways. I’m out.
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They have a SaaS option as well, I’m guessing that’s the main revenue plan.
Cloud based solutions in selfhosted are a hilarious suggestion.
I’m selfhosting it on box next to me. Wasn’t so hard for me to find the GitHub link on their website.
Jitsi
,but it is a pain in the ass to selfhost with good performance.
You can take a look here as well:
One alternative that is not on the awesome selfhosted list is: https://edumeet.org/
But it is even more of a PAIN to selfhost it.
Anyone know of something that isn’t Nextcloud Chat?
Do you absolutely need to put ONE tag on it all and say this is it?
I already made a comment but you should also look at rocketchat and revolt, since they are basically FOSS discord clones
(I saw comments in the thread about wanting audio only calls.)
I use jami but i dont think it fits your need for guess links.
Still leave it here just in case
Jami is a free/libre, end-to-end encrypted, and private communication software.
Jami is a stability and security nightmare
I wouldn’t recommend it
Please tell us more about the actual security problems!
Have you actually dug into the internals? It is pretty bad. Large poorly maintained code base with poor cryptography. Theoretically it is fine but I’d rather use Signal.
No, I rarely read the code of software I use, especially crypto code since thant’s not my thing. But good to know that you did. Thanks for your opinion.
It’s true there are a lot of better alternatives to jami when it comes to privacy/security: Here’s a good comparison table:
Care to expand on that? I am seriously considering that as part of my post-skype future.
I would look into Jami, Signal and maybe Simplex Chat
Im using it for 3 months now and I did not notice any stability issue. One time I experienced a long delay in receiving a message.
Do you have any details on why its a security nightmare?
All communications are peer-to-peer and end-to-end encrypted.
It is a massive code base which doesn’t seem to get a lot of maintenance due to lack of developers. Jami also lacks a security audit which doesn’t build confidence
From a security perspective it uses dTLS which isn’t great for metadata sensitive applications. Message delivery is also finicky since it depends on peers working reliably.
If you don’t mind seperated tools that do well in their own :
- Zulip for chat
- Jitsi for video meeting
- And whatever calendar you want for the calendar
