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  • sarmale@lemmy.zip
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    5 months ago

    Every brother has one of these on their site, and somehow that browser always wins

  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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    those tables usually are wrong or misleading, i don’t like them.

    Edge for example has the 3rd party cookie blocking and it works ok, so why it’s “no” and not “somewhat” or similar?

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      5 months ago

      Does it, though? Or does Microsoft come under the second party label

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          the ‘msn news’ that most people see is the ‘start’ page that’s baked into the edge browser. ubo does not work on it. for users that actually want that page, i clean up the start page settings and throw a bookmark to msn.com on their toolbar instead so ubo works.

    • Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      The ‘Enforce users choice’ is just GPC on by default I believe. Which means nothing since it is still voluntary.

      • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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        5 months ago

        should be “prevent sites from tracking”. Or they carefully chose that sentence in order to give a “no” to edge and “somewhat” to chrome and opera

        • Firefox uses a built-in domain blocklist for tracking protection, in addition to blocking third party cookies

          Although that would not explain why Chrome and Opera pass that at all to begin with IMO. Maybe these browsers enforce their own additional data silos or other deviations from specs when in Private Browsing mode. I know Chrome for example shrinks the storage provision for various JS APIs down to practically nothing when in Incognito mode, which can break things like Teams Web etc when you start sharing files.

          Either way though all marketing ever is, is just a selection of carefully chosen words. In this case, browsers too, as there’s no Brave there (I’m not a fan of Brave anyway, but worth noting)

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          It’s this.

          Firefox’ total cookie protection does not block third party cookies, it isolates them in separate jars for each website…

          Total Cookie Protection works by creating a separate “cookie jar” for each website you visit. Instead of allowing trackers to link up your behavior on multiple sites, they just get to see behavior on individual sites. Any time a website, or third-party content embedded in a website, deposits a cookie in your browser, that cookie is confined to the cookie jar assigned to only that website. No other websites can reach into the cookie jars that don’t belong to them and find out what the other websites’ cookies know about you — giving you freedom from invasive ads and reducing the amount of information companies gather about you.

    • lud@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      They included the biggest browsers. They don’t need to include every single browser in existence.

    • mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      And Brave too, which inconveniently beats firefox hands down in independent privacy checks. The mozilla foundation finally needs to step it up.

      • RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml
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        5 months ago

        That heavily depends. Brave may have better advice/tracker blocking by default, but they send more telemetry. Them being an advertising company also doesn’t speak for them. Brave is a decent browser and on IOS/IPadOS a good option for open source + Adblock, but max privacy would be reconfigured Firefox or Librewolf.

          • Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Even if it weren’t for the crypto, Brave’s CEO is one sleazy, untrustworthy motherfucker. I’d never put my privacy in his hands. Just an absolute dogshit reputation.

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              I figured there was enough to criticize without needing to resort to ad-hominem attacks against the CEO. However, if we’re going there, then I’d be remiss not to point out that he’s also the motherfucker who inflicted Javascript upon the world when we could’ve had a decent language like Python or Scheme in the browser instead. Not to downplay the significance of his bigotry, but that’s almost the greatest sin of them all!

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                Homophobes always come bundled with a lot of other problems. There’s no way anyone can trust a homophobe of any kind.

                Anyway, blocking you. Have a great life, asshole.

                Edit: Bonus fuck javascript

                Edit 2: This was so wrong of me, I’m sorry. I’m an ass. Leaving my comment for honesty’s sake.

          • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            Fact: your opinion is based on snippets of things you heard online and doesn’t actually match reality 🤷

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              Fact: your opinion is based on snippets of things you heard online and doesn’t actually match reality 🤷

              My facts come directly from Brave’s own claims, so fuck off with your condescension, fanboi. Your dismissive trolling isn’t welcome here.

              • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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                Find me a claim from Brave’s that it’s a protection racket.

                Find me a claim from Brave’s that it’s a crypto scam. NOT just that they use crypto, but that it’s a scam.

                And before you start, a blanket statement of “all crypto is a scam” is not a fact. It’s hyperbole and your opinion.

                So do you actually have “facts”? Or did you just present opinions as facts?

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                  5 months ago

                  Of course criminals aren’t going to admit that they’re criminals. But when they describe their behavior (in this case, man-in-the-middle replacing sites’ ads with their own and then extorting them to participate in the crypto scheme in order to replace the revenue) anybody objective would recognize that it is, in fact, criminal.

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              Sadly its not just “heard”. Just google it, you will find enough “incidents” brave had.

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    I didn’t get that but I guess because I have a plugin to give me nice backgrounds on new tabs.

    But yeah, shots fired. Nice!

    The only issue is that only already existing Firefox users see this, and we already know this.

  • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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    You love it?

    I bet you hate Google doing self ads?
    Yet this is also just a self ad. And spammy, because it pops open a tab, something browsers are supposed to suppress unless specifically enabled.

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      This is a false equivalence.

      If Google advertises the merits of their browser within their browser, like Mozilla is doing here, then that’s fair enough, I have zero complaints about that. Why not have a welcome page when you install the browser, highlighting the benefits of using your product?

      If Google is utilising their other products to unfairly give themselves a leg up in advertising their browser, then yeah, I’m against that.

      If I search on Google (the de facto standard), I shouldn’t have popups telling me to use Chrome. If I watch a YouTube video, Google shouldn’t be allowed to place Chrome ads there.

      Same goes for MS relentlessly advertising Edge in Windows and forcing it into other Microsoft programs.

      Those are examples of companies abusing their monopolistic market position to gain a business advantage, which is illegal. It’s nothing like Mozilla having a Firefox ad within Firefox.

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        I tend to agree here. It’s like Netflix showing banners of what content they have, on their own site.

        “Here are some features of this product you have!” Intrusive, maybe, but not like they’re directing you away to pay more money.

  • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
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    5 months ago

    I think this is a shitpost of the highest order. If this appears to everyone (?) it adds nothing, and the crappy table is just astonishingly blatant cherry-picking.

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    If only Firefox on Android doesn’t refresh the pages every time I switch to another app and back to Firefox (and even showing only black screen), just to input 2FA code or card detail. It becomes really annoying.

    The desktop browser is pretty fine though.

  • Nimfi@beehaw.org
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    5 months ago

    i’m the bestest browser guys, i swear. source: trust me bro.

    (I use firefox before y’all come for my neck)

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      5 months ago

      Its kind of like Simplex Chat claiming to be more secure and private than everything else. (Solid platform though)

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      5 months ago

      We Dutchies had a commercial like that.

      Loosely translated: “We from WC duck recommend WC duck products.”

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    5 months ago

    Honestly I don’t see the reason they put that there. I already own Firefox why are you trying to win me over?

    • sab@kbin.social
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      5 months ago

      People tend to have multiple browsers. You might have FireFox installed but still not be aware why you should use it over other browsers on your computer.

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        This is a very good reason to put this kind of page in. For less computer savvy people, they may vaguely know “if I click this fox icon it takes me to the Internet and so does this colorful circle and this blue swoosh, so it’s all the same” but when they accidentally open one they use less often, seeing something like this might push their preference a little for which one they open

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    5 months ago

    I like using Firefox, but it’s a bit ironic to have google analytics tracking on the page you declare to protect the users privacy.

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    They need to add a row for “Owned by a foreign superpower”“Owned by the Chinese government” and a check for Opera.

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    Im just over here using firefox since it was still netscape navigator 2.0.

    Another update? Okay