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    There’s so much Democrat bootlicking in here, the comment section smells of wet leather and shoe polish.

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    Primaries exist. Show up and vote for the boring elections too.

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        It’s so fucking wild what liberals will simply refuse to acknowledge happened back in 2020. And it could easily be argued that 2024 was even more blatantly and flagrantly the result of corrupt backroom dealings, as a sitting President was deposed following a poor debate performance, to be replaced unilaterally by party insiders.

        https://theintercept.com/2020/02/04/iowa-caucus-app-shadow-acronym/

        “ACRONYM is an investor in several for-profit companies across the progressive media and technology sectors,” Tharp said. “One of those independent, for-profit companies is Shadow, Inc, which also has other private investors.”

        David Plouffe, a former campaign manager to Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential bid who joined Acronym’s board, also distanced himself from the company during an MSNBC panel last night. “I have no knowledge of Shadow,” said Plouffe. “It was news to me.”

        But previous statements and internal Acronym documents suggest that the two companies, which share office space in Denver, Colorado, are deeply intertwined.

        Last year, McGowan, a co-founder of Acronym, wrote on Twitter that she was “so excited to announce @anotheracronym has acquired Groundbase,” a firm that included “their incredible team led by [Gerard Niemira] + are launching Shadow, a new tech company to build smarter infrastructure for campaigns.” McGowan also noted that “With Shadow, we’re building a new model incentivized by adoption over growth.” The acquisition was announced in mid-January of last year.

        In an interview on a related podcast last month, McGowan described Niemira as “the CEO of Shadow, which is the technology company that Acronym is the sole investor in now.”

        What’s more, internal documents from Acronym show a close relationship with Shadow. An internal organizational chart shows digital strategy firm Lockwood Strategy, FWIW Media, and Shadow as part of a unified structure, with Acronym staff involved in the trio’s operations.

        In an all-staff email sent last Friday, an official with Lockwood Strategy reminded team members about “COOL THINGS HAPPENING AROUND ACRONYM.” The list included bullets points such as, “The Iowa caucus is on Monday, and the Shadow team is hard at work,” and “Shadow is working on scaling up VAN integration with Shadow Messaging for some Iowa caucus clients.” (VAN refers to the widely used Democratic voter file technology firm.) Acronym staffers also attended the Shadow staff retreat.

        A person with knowledge of the company’s culture, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of reprisal, shared communications showing that top officials at the company regularly expressed hostility to Sen. Bernie Sanders’s supporters. McGowan is married to Michael Halle, a senior strategist with the Buttigieg campaign. There is no evidence any preference of candidates had any effect on the coding issue that is stalling the Iowa results.

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        Despite what people say online, there are elections every two years. Those centrists in Congress that everyone complains about? Yup. Two year terms in the House. You should be voting twice every two years for national elections alone.

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        And what were the consequences? They all re-won their primaries.

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      You fool. This is social media where the loudest ignorant voice wins. You should agree with the clowns and farm the upvotes like on Reddit.

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    From an outsider’s perspective it seems like the Democrats behave like that because the US electorate is genuinely right-wing and need pandered to.

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    Soooo Dems won’t make it better but least won’t make it worse. If 2 party then easy choice.

    Shame people didnt do this 20 years ago and voted gop out of existence.

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      No, my friend, you’re wrong. The Washington Democrats do make it worse. They (most of them) are willing participants in making life worse for the average American, and they know it, and they don’t care.

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      twenty years ago people gave the Dems a super-majority; they used it to lock in the fascist policies of the Bush admin and give a massive hand out the wealthy.

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        911 kind of destroy any semblance of reason in the country. Everyone was angry. Tried to talk reason? Just look at Dixie chicks and boondocks version of MLK.

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          That’s your excuse? Seriously?

          “Shame people didn’t vote Dem 20 years ago, the gop wouldn’t be around!”

          “They did”

          “Yeah, but 9/11 had happened only a decade earlier”

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            excuse? Hope maybe but now I doubt it with young boys being Tate trolls.

            Naa country hadn’t healed yet for 10 years after. Now? I dont think 911 is a factor but nation has other issues made apparent by Trump.

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              So why did you say "Soooo Dems won’t make it better but least won’t make it worse. If 2 party then easy choice.

              Shame people didnt do this 20 years ago and voted gop out of existence."?

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                Cause people keep hating on dems instead of seeing dems for what they are. Opportunists Lesser evils than also need to be removed. But GOP is worst they need to go first. We need Truce with dems until gop is gone. then let’s go tear them apart. But people keep getting angry and shocked at dems bs and then refuse to vote and let gop win. Which is arguably worst outcome.

                At least vote third party people!

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      Soooo Dems won’t make it better but least won’t make it worse.

      Obama oversaw the largest decrease in black household wealth in american history

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      The problem with having 365 million people or so in a sick society that encouraged and rewards destroying each other is that things get worse automatically.

      Dems doing nothing makes things worse. Reps doing nothing makes things worse. Its a prisoners dilemma where the only winning move is to kill the cops and hope for the best.

      If al gore won we’d have still invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, it would just be in bush jrs first term in 2004 that we invade Iraq.

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        You are Probably right though im sure gore would have pushed for renewables. Thats like his whole thing.

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    Democrats certainly have flaws, but focusing on them during an election of such consequence resulted in Trump. And so being “right” was worth it???

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          If you’d developed class consciousness, you’d understand why neither party enacts progressive policies despite their popularity. Previously:

          The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

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              When you have to go back 93 years to the Great Depression to find an example, you’ve made my point.

              FDR did what he did to save capitalism from the threat of socialist revolution, and politicians have spent the last three generations clawing back the concessions he had made to socialist & labor agitators. They also purged socialists from trade unions, and they purged and even assassinated communists, to avoid any such thing happening again.

              Chris Hedges, America: The Farewell Tour:

              The New Deal, as Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, saved capitalism. It was put in place because socialists were a strong and serious threat. The oligarchs understood that with the breakdown of capitalism—something I expect we will again witness in our lifetimes—there was a possibility of a socialist revolution. They did not want to lose their wealth and power. Roosevelt, writing to a friend in 1930, said there was “no question in my mind that it is time for the country to become fairly radical for at least one generation. History shows that where this occurs occasionally, nations are saved from revolution.” In other words, Roosevelt went to his fellow oligarchs and said, “Hand over some of your money or you will lose all your money in a revolution.” And they complied. That is how the government created fifteen million jobs, Social Security, unemployment benefits, and public works projects. The capitalists did not do this because the suffering of the masses moved them to pity. They did this because they were scared.

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            Progressives either need to win more races or just stfu already. It’s always somehow everyone else’s fault.

            Thing is- I WANT progressive policy. But acting as if there is some big majority that’s just waiting for the perfect candidate is foolish. Either it’s not popular or people are LAZY just like I stated before and need to be shamed into voting regardless.

            Inconvenient truth for progressives.

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              Progressives either need to win more races or just stfu already. It’s always somehow everyone else’s fault.

              📽️

              Either it’s not popular or people are LAZY just like I stated before and need to be shamed into voting regardless.

              Lol. Yeah, it’s a good thing we live in a Just World.

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      Leftists are not liberals. The things that matter to leftists are different than the things that matter to liberals. We have different goals. The things liberals advocate for do not move us towards our goals. We have no reason to support you.

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        And yet many of us leftists are still calling you out. If anyone needs any more evidence of this, look up who voted for her the most. Black people, particularly black women, Jewish people, and the LGBTQ+ community. Now, who wants to guess which groups have been the loudest voices against capitalism in the US? Who has been the most politically active?

        Its generally been us in the communities who are going to die.

        But if these communities tend to be liberals then I will gladly be a communist liberal.

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          I will gladly be a communist liberal.

          It is impossible to be a communist/anarchist/socialist/leftist liberal, because communism/anarchism/socialism/leftism are diametrically opposed to liberalism.

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            Lol If leftism is telling the groups who have historically been at the forefront of everything, including fighting against capitalism, that they need to shut up cause theyre just liberals, then I love liberals.

            If liberalism is worrying about the communities who get harmed the most, then Im a liberal

            But Im so glad to have seen over this last year that leftistism is apperantly thinking of us the same way Republicans do.

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              I didn’t realise I was talking to the incarnate avatar of “marginalised community”. Are Palestinians included in your metaphysical essence?

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          Yes, and leftists don’t put the same value in identity that liberals do. We obviously care to some extent, we believe in national liberation, and historically the communist movements have supported black people in the US for example.

          You know what those communists didn’t do though? Vote for liberals.

          Also if you’re trying to say that minority groups are the most politically active…I’d agree. That’s why leftist groups are represented by large amounts of those people.

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        Yeah, leftists advocate for and support Trump. What matters to leftists is destroying people’s lives and the planet as long as they get to feel nice and smug.

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          If you want to save the planet, that takes abolishing the capitalist system. Neither major party is going to implement real measures to fix that. Harris was running on stronger borders too so I really don’t think its a reach to say we’d be getting ICE raids and destroyed lives under her.

          In the words of Malcolm X: “If you stick a knife in my back 9 inches and pull it out 6 inches, there’s no progress. If you pull it all the way out, that’s not progress. The progress is healing the wound…”

          Give me someone that wants to heal the wound. I’ll vote for them.

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      The same Democrats that barely won the previous election by telling people not to focus on them but Trump. Imagine funding the murder of kids, ignoring the housing crisis & then thinking you could just pull out the previous playbook with a dementia patient, then anointing Kamala Cheney at the last minute.

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    Republicans aren’t 100% gun ho about trumps recent (and easily foreseen) fuck ups.

    If we replace First-past-the-post voting, we could easily see the republican party get replaced with a more reasonable conservative party like the democrats.

    Plus, you know, screaming at people unrepresented in government to vote for your preferred political party isn’t actually democracy.

    If Alaska can do it, so can your state!

    Electoral Reform Videos

    First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

    Videos on alternative electoral systems

    STAR voting

    Alternative vote

    Ranked Choice voting

    Range Voting

    Single Transferable Vote

    Mixed Member Proportional representation

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      This is the truth. Politics that really matter happen at home. Prioritize self-reliance and live in accordance with your values to the best of your ability. It’s literally the best you can hope for which is why it is the singular pursuit of people throughout history. The smart man knows the government does not and will never care about him.

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    Democrats spent their entire life understanding what FPTP is and their entire political understanding hangs on explaining it to other people any time Democrats get criticized.

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    Reminder that the Democrats would be considered even further right than the Conservative Party in Canada. And Canada itself is still considered pretty right wing with no big leftist parties (NDP is still center-right at best)

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    The Democrats suck but there’s a huge difference between voting for boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Don’t make me tap the chart.

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    What a shit show. (Not an American, btw)

    I wonder, how many “both sides” Americans who didn’t vote (or voted third party) expected Democrats to win anyway. This way they could feel smug for not “voting for genocide” while still getting the clearly better option.

    Now they have to pretend they didn’t fuck up and act as if having a “protect the status quo” democrat wouldn’t have been any better.