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    10 months ago

    I love EVs and truly believe they’re the future. But holy shit what must these monsters weigh? And, what’s the environmental impact considering our current shitty battery tech?

    I still support moving this direction because it creates the necessary infrastructure that can be leveraged by newer battery tech. And likely even with the batteries, it’s better than diesel.

    But the new batteries to make them lighter and less polluting can’t come soon enough.

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      10 months ago

      our current shitty battery tech

      I think our battery tech is the best it’s ever been, unless you’re comparing it to sci-fi

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        EDIT: Why on earth are people downvoting improving battery technology? LMFAO, sometimes this place is batshit crazy.

        There’s research into many different formulations that don’t use nearly as much (or in some cases any) toxic materials, solid-state batteries, etc.

        Are you taking the critique personally? If so, that’s a misunderstanding. It’s not an attack on you.

        It’s simply a fact there’s a LONG way to go on battery tech, and anything we can do to increase power density while decreasing weight is critical to making them more environmentally friendly and sustainable.

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      The current environmental impact is none if you compare it to literally shipping oil from the middle east every day just to burn it.

      You love EVs yet are parroting oil barons talking point. I’m skeptical.

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        I still support moving this direction because it creates the necessary infrastructure that can be leveraged by newer battery tech. And likely even with the batteries, it’s better than diesel.

        I don’t know how to help you read.

        You sound like a demagog who feels attacked when faced with facts or genuine issues. Advocating for improvements to the technology isn’t being anti-EV or even anti-battery. LOL. #faceplam&sigh

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          Batteries are over 90% recyclable. They’re actually pretty environmentally friendly after the first round.

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            But theyre not recycled much–YET.

            Agree and excitedly look forward to growth in that market (or even having a market for it). They will eventually become a profitable recycling opportunity. Unless one of the other battery techs (tons of them) in development just completely supplanted them. Either way the impact should diminish over time. Main questions are how fast and long will they continue to be an environmental negative.

            Rechargeable nickel–cadmium (Ni-Cd), nickel metal hydride (Ni-MH), lithium-ion (Li-ion) and nickel–zinc (Ni-Zn), can also be recycled. Disposable alkaline batteries make up the vast majority of consumer battery use, but there is currently no cost-neutral recycling option.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling

            EDIT: You can read further down how close some of these companies are to an actual recycling center. They’re getting there!

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              Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

              Battery recycling is a recycling activity that aims to reduce the number of batteries being disposed as municipal solid waste. Batteries contain a number of heavy metals and toxic chemicals and disposing of them by the same process as regular household waste has raised concerns over soil contamination and water pollution.

              to opt out, pm me ‘optout’. article | about

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          10 months ago

          “Black propaganda is a form of propaganda intended to create the impression that it was created by those it is supposed to discredit”

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            When a fact looks like propaganda to you, then you need to recognize the red flag and seek self improvement.