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I have been using Brave for the last year and I did like it as a mobile browser. But today I noticed that when I was searching about abortion and etopic pregnancy (fact checking a really dumb article) that all of a sudden their AI crap was throwing “no results available” errors. I checked some other left leaning topics and sure enough it no longer gives you AI results. So I immediately uninstalled that shit from my phone because fuck them.
Is not having AI results really a bad thing?
Not at all. I never wanted to see AI and it kept turning itself back on this was just the final push for me to uninstall it.
I’m guessing it’s more about the clear bias on display, wherein certain topics are suppressed
Given the ceo this shouldn’t come as a shock.
I don’t know much about brave except that its chromium based and apparently removes web ads as its main feature. Why are they running ads? Why do I keep getting this browser recommended? How the fuck do they make money to be able to target me with this info? Something is off and I don’t like it. I feel like the pressure to use brave isnt coming to me organically so I’m staying clear of it. I just have a bad feeling and I’ll trust my gut on this.
Because they “reward” people with crypto for watching ads so a lot of cryptobro assholes have financial interest in the browser getting more popular.
Also the CEO is homophobic and right-wing so it speaks to a lot of loud assholes.
Its full of crypto bullshit as well, and they add their own ads too some pages that they pay you to watch (in a useless crypto)
They block all ads except their own.
Well, they threatened students for creating a fork. So yeah, they are dead to me
Guess you’re outside the EU or something? Cause it looks different over here, Firefox isn’t mentioned here. Also they’re at 4.9 instead of 4.7 for some reason. Either way, fuck brave.
no, I’m in Ireland. You have to search for “firefox” for it to come up, but they could have changed it.
Yeah, probably. This morning when I searched for Firefox, I did get a brave ad, as you and others have said. Altho there was nothing anti-firefox in their ad. Now when I search for Firefox I actually get a Firefox ad.
when you search firefox on the play store, there’s a brave ad
True. It’s also there when you look for chrome and other browsers. (Except Vivaldi and opera which have also bought ad space) That’s how buying ads works. Fucked up, but nothing new, unfortunately.
Oh wow! I need to install this ultra bloated version of Chromium.
I never liked or trusted Brave for what it claims it fights for
Fuck Brave, it’s based on Chromium and contains crypto BS.
It’s technically correct with all of these but extremely disingenuous.
The real good: Baked in Youtube ad-blocking with a full dev team playing keep up with youtube Better at anti-fingerprinting Built-in mediocre TOR support.
The real bad: They will sell your data. They will sell your data from their VPN
The rest of their bad is optional. Don’t use them for search and don’t use their crypto.
If you’re going to use them, at least keep a fully equivalently outfitted copy of firefox, you don’t want to get stuck if they finally decide to turn full evil.
if they finally decide to turn full evil.
Yeah this is the brave experience. Free and open source product that behaves as advertised… from a company that acts like they’re perpetually on the brink of fucking you over. Really hope this doesn’t happen, brave’s approach to antifingerprinting is actually quite interesting and completely different to what we see in the firefox-based hardened browsers.
I honestly really like what they do with the fingerprinting. But it’s just a straight trade. Now amazon can’t follow me directly, but Brave will certainly sell Amazon the info that I shopped at Home Depot looking for discontinued air filters :)
FF fingerprinting with UO and privacy badger are by no means bad, they are actually quite acceptable.
What does privacy badger do that isn’t covered by UO? Is it worth it to install privacy badger if I already use a browser like librewolf that nukes all data every time it’s restarted?
It’s EFF’s tracker blocker. All they have is their name, so I have a lot of trust in them. I use it in concert with chrome and firefox based browsers. In FF it tightens up the tracking a bit. Doesn’t eat much ram/time.
Out of the ling of things I will never trust, free VPN is near the top of the list
I mean, you could do this with anything
nazism:
-✅️ Very terrifying and intimidating uniforms
Every other ideology:
-❌️ Does not have terrifying and intimidating uniforms*
*According to opinions of career nazis
This is what Brave is doing 🙄
Well, actually it should be:
-❌️ Limited or no terrifying and intimidating uniforms
Firefox does block trackers by default, but apparently that’s “limited protection”, according to who the fuck knows, so it gets the ❌.
Points 1 and 2 are absolutely on FF. You can also set it to private by default. This is not a factual graphic.
Firefox started blocking YouTube ads without plugins?
You can also set it to
Grandma isn’t going to go into security settings. I really with FF would just make it the default on install.
Everything in that list can easily be made the same, but they’re not the same without some basic knowledge of wanting it.
Grandma isn’t going to use Brave either.
Nor is she going to click on ads to “earn” crypto coins.
Kind of funny they list their built-in, paid VPN as a positive feature and not a negative. Maybe they were running out of good things to say about… Themselves.
Granted, Mozilla also shot themselves in the foot by saying Firefox was better for not blocking ads by default, but that’s a different story for a different day
Brave has never had a good look.
I tried it a few years ago. Ditched it because it’s just another chromium browser.
Firefox has been my main for about 6 years now.
I fell for it because Al Swiegerts book: “Automate the boring stuff” used it in the webscrape sample.
After that I just kept using it. And felt justified in my choice when I realized the only other browsers left are chrome and Safari.
I just learned that Safari is a fork on Konquorer. So, that’s interesting.
Fennec for the phone, Qutebrowser for the desktop. Life is good.
Just curious, why Fennec for phones?
I tried a fair few browsers for android. Iceraven, Fulguris, Fennec, and Mull. I settled on Fulguris, because it was no frills with custom adblock lists and a good built in darkmode.
However, Fulguris became a headache because any app that required a browser portal login wouldn’t recognize it.
So I moved to Mull. Then Mull dropped the project. Mull, Iceraven, and Fennec are basically the same idea as Firefox derivatives.
I use a free, massive coverage, open source icon pack called Delta and between Iceraven and Fennec I liked the Fennec icon more.
It honestly might be true
Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy. They could be worse but they also could be way better.
Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy.
Okay, I’ll bite: how does Firefox suck in terms of privacy?
The main problem is the telemetry and targeted advertising.
However, it also could have a bit better defaults from a fingerprinting resistance perspective.
The targeted advertising happens locally in your browser. It doesn’t upload your data to anywhere, so I don’t see how that’s relevant for privacy.
Similarly, I find it hard to imagine that they’d be able to personally identify a person from what they send in telemetry (see
about:telemetry). I guess, if you install an add-on called “I’m Seymour Skinner from Springfield, USA”, then they could, but even then, worst-case they know when you use the browser…
After installing Brave I was getting some kind of failed login popup in my GNOME desktop environment. Uninstalled it and the popup disappeared. It gave me the heeby jeebies about Brave.
Not to defend Brave, but this sounds like it was just a pop-up for the Gnome key wallet or something like that.
Sure, I just found it too annoying and the easiest solution was to uninstall Brave.
Yeah, it tries to use the keyring to store passwords every time you launch it even if you turned off password saving, the same applies to chrome and chromium browsers in general plus most password managers, tho not always. I tried to troubleshoot it, most forums online suggested to remove gnome key-rings if you are not using them but it kept reinstalling it. This plus brave being slower on mobile made me switch to firefox
Ah so that’s what it was!
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Iirc, it only comes up if you search for firefox. They could have changed it.
It appeared for me as well. As the second result, under “Limited-time events”, first result was Firefox. What followed below in the “More results” were the rest of the Firefox variants.
I got the same result, searching for Firefox.
Yup, third confirmation that this shows up as a “limited time event” which I suspect is an ad in playstore if you search for firefox.
This is after searching Firefox on the Apple App Store, same as searching for brave.
I think its just on the play store.
Confirmed. They definitely paid to advertise under “Firefox” searches.
Confirmed
“Forget the fox!”
… “Contains ads”
No, I don’t think I will.
unfortunately firefox numbers are still going down, the manufest v3 bounce never really happened
It’s on Chromium so I will not use them
Only reason I use it is because it’s seemingly the only browser on iOS that blocks YouTube ads, and allows for background play without paying for Premium.
If anyone knows how to do the same via Firefox (iOS), I’m all ears!
Orion Browser can use Firefox extensions on iOS.
Is this the one?
Yep!
There’s a Safari extension in the App Store called vinegar that can do those things. AdGuard is another Safari extension that works well as an adblocker.
These two are exactly what I use on iOS also
Thanks, I’ll check them out!
Based on the description, this is the one you’re referring to?
Wait is this extension not available on iOS? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/video-background-play-fix/
No extension on iOS because apple prohibits browser engines from being distributed in their apps. Every browser there is a reskin of Safari
Eww, man apple is sleezy.
no extensions on ios
