It should help with developing a more healthy perception of reality, isn’t that enough?

Funny that this bicycle thief still has such faith in humanity that he trusts you to not ride off with the bike

I’m not commenting on people staying on topic, I’m saying the topic is always celebrities with you guys. No matter who started it.

And with your excellent ability to stay on this topic, the topic doesn’t change much.

I just called this reaction to the post that was already about influencers the Americanest thing I read, I did not mean any offense.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to comment on Americans always making things about celebrities and influencers, even if there is many facets to war.

This is the facet on the war, of which there are many, that the posts and the commenter highlight and I’m commenting on it because I find the talk of “bloodthirst” and “sad there’s innocent people killed, better take some of those influencers with them” appalling.

Yes you’re really turning into a caricature of the US

You hate influencers, but you guys still make this about the US and its influencers. “Sad there is a war, but please kill our influencers”.

That’s about the Americanest thing I ever read. Not everything is about you and your celebrities.

Plato’s Academy definitely did not start as a mosque… So I guess you’re refering to al-Qarawiyyin University.

Islam did a much better job of incorporating science, so it’s not really comparable to a seminary either. It’s not like they only taught theology there. We owe a great deal to the science being done by Muslims in those days. A hell of a lot more happened there than in the Middle Ages in Europe.

Besides, the university of Cambridge also started as a religious institution. I see no difference. All old universities have religious roots I guess? It took a long time for mankind to come up with secular education so why are the Islamic roots even a cause to question the validity of this university?

What? This is getting confusing.

Yes probably all cultures had slaves or stole land at some point in time. (This is true, depending on whether you see cultures as fixed in time: are current day Egyptians of the same culture as ancient Egyptians? When does culture “restart”? Who decides this?)

Let me ask you: is there no difference between let’s say a Native American claiming his land was stolen (hundreds of years ago and his people massacred, and he’s now a second rank citizen on his own land), and for instance a white European claiming his land was stolen (by the Romans? During WW2? I would not know what he means honestly, especially because he is now part of a nation state, a first class citizen).

Yes all land was stolen. But this is not an absolute. You wouldn’t agree the Native American had his land quite a bit more relatively stolen?

My point is you can’t invalidate the claim of native peoples just by going “meh, so what? All land was technically stolen at some point”. Some people can make a more legitimate claim their land was stolen than others.

Can’t really rank it, it’s a subjective statement. My gut tells me there’s a difference between for instance a Native American stating his land is stolen and a, just an example, white European stating his land is stolen.

My gut thinks there IS a way to rank these statements, even though it’s technically true all land was stolen at some point and the whole nation state fairy tale is completely arbitrary.

That’s just my gut though, it doesn’t agree with genocide

True, but still some land is significantly more stolen than others.

Ve are sinking hoe to safe ze sinking kats

Not that it is true that they are just tiny boxes… But even if it were true. That’s the difference between China and the US isn’t it?

One provides at least a “box” for everyone.

One provides a big home with a yard with a white picket fence around it for some, but leaves others living in the streets.

Do you really prefer the last one? So many people in the US would be happy with a box at this point.

China does. And in Western Europe no one needs to live on the street (if they agree with getting the help they need) and is provided with some income for basic necessities?