In the privacy community there are services, programs for private maps use. Some even suggest using the phone without a SIM card (which is quite possible, but you can get into trouble). But I don’t use them, as my geolocation is already tracked by an advanced camera system in my city, by my cell provider via triangulation. What are your thoughts on this? Do you use OpenStreetMap for private navigation?

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    9 months ago

    Personally not worried, but as a society I am.

    I live in the US, and we’ve seen a rise in some particularly hostile legislation against certain groups of people like in the LGBTQ community. I can foresee precise tracking being used against these groups of people to determine if they’ve been in the vicinity of a medical provider’s office, have traveled across state lines, congregate in certain social establishments, and even perhaps where they vote for representatives.

    This information could be used as targeting information for harassment or further punitive legislation. Voting districts could be redrawn to split these populations into minority regions such that they don’t have proportional share of representatives. Liquor licenses for “gay bars” could be revoked. Maybe we extend the liquor license revocations to bars which simply tolerate LQBTQ people getting a beer after work.

    Maybe tomorrow we change the targeted groups to Muslims. Or maybe NRA members. With the foundations for this kind of surveillance in place, the opportunity for abuse will never go away.

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      You could have also referenced the abortion issue, where it’s been proven without a shadow of a doubt that police are using surveillance powers to monitor women who are suspected of being pregnant and trying to terminate the pregnancy. It’s literally already happening in one instance, which helps prove that you’re very right in being worried about the things you’re worried about. Because those things will surely come to pass as well.

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      I disagree with you just slightly. I don’t think that focus should be on gay or whatever group the news is taking about. We are all unique and we all diserve privacy and freedom.

      As Edward Snowden once said:

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    I leave my phone in airplane mode all the time. I only turn on the cellular radio when I need data. But not when I’m just roaming around.

    When the radio is on I’m tracked, and I know it, and when the radio is off I’m not.

    Just because your camera network exists, doesn’t mean you have to make it easy for them.

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    But I don’t use them, as my geolocation is already tracked by an advanced camera system in my city, by my cell provider via triangulation.

    how is your geolocation tracked by cameras? It doesn’t make sense.

    advanced camera system? where do you live? Singapore?

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    Just because you can’t stop all the leaks in your plumbing doesn’t mean you shouldn’t fix the ones you can.

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      9 months ago

      If these holes lead to the same place and the same data leaks through them, then I wouldn’t worry about there being more than one :)

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    If I don’t want to be located, I know how not to be.

    But if I’m in my home, expected to be in my home, belong in my home and I’m doing home stuff, I’m not entirely that caring about who knows I am. I also don’t think it’s that big a deal if the government knows I’m in a bookstore, or work.

    But yeah, if I was hiding a body, I’d probably take my shitbox Acura that’s disconnected from everything but the ground, and I’d leave my phone at home, tied to my cat with string so it looks like I’m cleaning.

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      9 months ago

      good strategy, for day-to-day life it does not matter so much where are you located.