• twelve20two @slrpnk.net
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    7 months ago

    On the flip side, I say we continue to use them. Let his legacy be something completely out of his control, and let him learn that while he’s still alive.

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        If they were capable of being educated they wouldn’t be a conservative bigot in the first place

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          People can change as they learn new things

          And some people have a far worse starting point for knowledge depending on the preexisting information they were given

          Hell I look at the things I said over 15 years ago and I hate that I had said such hurtful things about groups of people that not only now do I call my friends but some of them I have called my significant others as well

          BTW I’m not sure what they said as their comment was gone before I got here

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            And some people have a far worse starting point for knowledge depending on the preexisting information they were given

            Exactly. As the person responded with the link on Wikipedia about existence of third genders, I find that those who are anti-lgbt were just conditioned as such because of either religion, or plain homophobia, or both. I’ve lived in both religious and non-religious countries, and the former have anti-lgbt sentiment for obvious reasons. Meanwhile, homophobia in the latter-- especially in Europe–are more motivated by sheer disgust on non-heteronormative genders and less about religion. But I still think that the anti-lgbt sentiment by many Europeans is a residue and offshoot from patriarchal and homophobic teachings of Christianity.

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            Some people can change.

            I congratulate you on becoming a better person, but I’ve given up trying to educate conservatives. Every single conservative I personally know has only gotten worse over the years, and the last straw for me was when I had one who self-identifies as a “moderate conservative” flat out tell me that he wishes gender and sexual minorities didn’t exist, and that he thinks the mere existence of these minorities is “polarizing” and makes him feel uncomfortable.

            So yes, while I fully acknowledge that it’s possible for conservatives to unfuck themselves and that being dismissive of them definitely won’t help, I’m just so past trying to be the better person when all I get back is shit like thinly veiled wishes for a “final solution”. I’m so fucking tired of the onus being on progressives for trying to make conservatives better people

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      lmao what the fuck where did this come from?

      Dude stfu no one is here for your insecurities lol

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        Hello there. I just mentioned the origin of the meme, which consisted of the guy saying that there are only two genders, and he would have to be convinced otherwise

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          Imagine being such a failure that you can’t even masquerade as a troll without looking pathetic holy shit lmao

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              Got’em lmaoooooo

              Edit: no jk dude im sure you’re actually really cool irl fr fr I like that you downvoted me tho.

              An effective troll doesn’t get emotion pal 😭 go be a tryhard somewhere else. I heard 4chan is cool.

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        Star Trek The Next Generation

        Skip episode 1, “Encounter at Farpoint”. It sucks all around. Watch it later if you’re really curious but don’t say I didn’t warn you.

        If you want to check out a “representative” episode, see Season 5 Episode 2. You don’t have to know everything going in, it’s self-contained. If you like the episode you’ll like Star Trek.

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          I remember really liking Encounter at Farpoint when i was a kid

          Rewatching it more recently, I realized Diana’s “PAIN! I FELL PAIN!” was her sensing the audience’s reaction to the horrible episode

          Like… It had a single episode worth of good episode in there but they left the other half in that should have hit the editing room floor

          ETA: I had to look up what season 5 episode 2 is, and yes, that’s an excellent representation

          I’d argue that the second pilot of the original series, “Where No Man Has Gone Before” is also a excellent overall introduction to Star Trek: cerebral rather than action oriented, the focus on the people and their relationships both with each other and their own humanity, asking questions of the audience to make us think, solid message (“absolute power corrupts absolutely”)…

          But definitely skip the original pilot, The Cage, in its standalone form. Watching that, we were damned lucky it didn’t get shitcanned fully right then and there

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        Honestly I don’t remember anything directly antisemitic from him, some of his guests were, if I remember correctly, but not directly from him. Do you happen to know an example of him being openly antisemitic? Not that it matters, he probably is in private.

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          I might be mistaking him with one of the other major grifters; the Venn diagram between racists, homophobes, transphobes, and antisemites is a circle.

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    Never heard of the man. Sometimes I wish we the internet would pay more attention to people that inspire us than to people that disgust us.

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    The only meme I see in this version is one complaining about needing to use this version over the original one.

    It isn’t helping.

    In fact, because the name is spelled-out, more people now know about the guy.